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Beethoven sonata No 5, Op. 10 in Cm, mvts 1&2

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  1. wiser_guy

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    I have decided to dedicate some time (as if I had a lot of it :cry: ) to Beethoven sonatas. It has been an untouched area for me until now but I feel his sonatas are a kind of ultimate study in musical form and so, challenging and necessary at the same time. I don't know what I'll accomplish, though I have scheduled to play three of them in the future.

    For starters, I have prepared the first and second movement of sonata No 5, Op. 10. Forgive me for posting this sonata incomplete, I promise I'll post the final movement soon. I work slowly with Beethoven's pieces and I cannot post anything until I'm certain that it feels the way I want it to.

    Movement 1 is "Allegro molto e con brio", movement 2 is "Adagio molto".
    I hope you enjoy the music.


    Beethoven - Sonata No.5 in C minor, Op.10 No.1, I: Allegro molto e con brio

    Beethoven - Sonata No.5 in C minor, Op.10 No.1, II: Adagio molto
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    These are up, Pantelis. I don't know this music very well, but what I heard sounded good to me.
    Thanks also for providing all the pertinent information. :D
     
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    Hi Pantelis, it's good to see you're being adventurous in the most classical repertoire and, sure enough, positively so. You may want to improve some uneven RH quaver passages in the first movement; also, I find the Adagio molto too slow -not too slow in itself, but in relation to the dry sound of your recording- causing sometimes your playing to lose momentum and direction. In the second movement I heard a couple of small mistakes: ms.30 LH chord comes a bit late, on the fourth note of the sixtuplet instead of the first one; ms.53 you play as a sixtuplet a group of two 16ths + four 32nds.
     
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    Pantelis,

    I found both of these movements a joy to listen too -- full of the drama and passion so expected of Beethoven.

    Scott
     
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    @ pianolady
    Monica, thanks for putting these up and sorry for my delayed response - Clean Monday (first day of the Great Lent - Pure Monday, perhaps?, I don't know what you call it) for us here and everybody was supposed to be out, flying a kite.

    @ alf
    I had spotted the mistake in measure 30 myself too. I could play the part again and 'copy and paste' but that would disrupt the flow which I was happy with. Not a big deal after all.
    Measure 53 is a problem for me as the first sixteenth is a trill and I am a lousy triller. I always end up with an approximation of the actual content written in the score - hence the sextuplet you mention.
    Thanks for taking the time to listen and commenting, Alf.

    @ RSPIll
    Thank you, Scott. I really appreciate your words.
     
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    alf Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    No big deal, Pantelis, they're details that don't do much harm at all. I'm looking forward to listening to the arduous 3rd movement.
     
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    Hi Pantelis,
    it´s a pleasure to listen to these recordings. As usual the sound-quality is excellent. I agree to the details, Alfonso has mentioned.
    Some few little rhythmical imperfections in playing both hands together can be found, but that´s not a big deal, I agree.
    In summary it´s a very musical and expressive performance with a very clear sound and articulation. That´s what I appreciate most of these nice recordings. Continue so, I´m looking forward to the last movement.
     
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    Thank you for taking the time to listen, Andreas. I know it's not easy to find 15 quiet minutes to focus and listen to a recording in a busy day's schedule. And thank you for your comments, also. They are right on target and I assure you, I'm trying hard to correct things like that in my playing.

    Yeah, I'm looking forward to it myself :D
     
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    These were a really nice recordings Pantelis.

    I especially enjoyed the lyrical/expressive second movement. The first movement sounded like it had a lot of fun and interesting rhythmic patterns.

     
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    Hi Pantelis,

    I just listened to both movements of this sonata. To date I've only played five Beethoven sonatas and have never revisited Beethoven since then, so I'm not an "authority" on this music. Nonetheless, I very much enjoyed your performance. You draw from this piece a clear sense of its structure, have a fine command of touch and articulation, give attention to dynamics and agogics, and shape your phrases and lines in a way that captures the essence of this music. You express it well, highlighting the subtleties, lyricism and drama along the way. I admire your musicianship! The recorded sound is very clean and natural too.

    David
     
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    @ s_winitsky
    Stan, thank you for your words. i admit, the second movement is my favourite too.

    @ Rachfan
    I'm so glad you liked my first 'official' attempt on Beethoven. Your opinion and comments are valuable to me. Interestingly, you mention those things that I have worked hard on and I feel this to be rewarding in some manner.
    And yes, Beethoven is full of drama, I agree. The pianist must seek ways to express it when playing one of his works.
    David, thanks for your words.
     
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