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Bach/Friedman "Sheep may safely graze" from Cantat

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  1. techneut

    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    I have a soft spot for him and enjoy many of his piano works. However the Blithe Bells I think is unusually gaudy and vulgar, evern for Grainger standards, and I would not want to play it.
    I'm probably a bit of a Bach snob... heheh better get that out before someone else sez it :wink:
     
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    It's easy to be a Bach snob, when just about everyone else's favorite composers idolized him. ;)
     
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    I meant it in the sense that I generally disapprove of Bach elaborations. Not failhful transcriptions though, like what Rachmaninov did with the violin partita is absolute genius.
     
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    I know what you meant, but it is what I was talking about that makes you snobby in the way that you were talking about, is it not? :lol: No one should presume to touch the master's works, because no one compares, no? The truth is obvious...everyone should be a Bach snob. ;)
     
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    You lost me there...
    But I cannot understand why everybody is allowed to get their hands on Bach's music and get away with it. If this were to be done with Chopin music, some people here would scream blue murder would they not ! Of course Bach's music can stand it better, it's indestructible but even so. I find the musical value of Bach transcriptions most always less than the original. Sometimes much less. It is really not possible to improve on Bach.

    A-men ....
    Hehe, I feel better now :wink:
     
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    Don't forget that amazing Chaconne transcription for LH by Brahms. Speaking of, I don't think we have that here .........
     
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    We don't. What are you waiting for ??? :p
     
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    technique and talent, my friend ... technique and talent :D
     
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    Touché :lol:
     
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    No, Alfonso!!! :shock: ah, there is such a clever idea...
    Because I don't have a piano at home, I've just tried that on my electronic organ that my husband recently rescued from being thrown away by the neighbour at the next door. It seems to be possible on that way... :shock: :shock: !!!
    But to play this on the heavy grand certainly I must train my fingers more thoroughly. Actually I have the grasping problem with the second Scherzo, too. I can't press the RH chord A flat-D flat-B flat at the bar 72 on the grand louder than p, while I have no problem with it on the E-organ. :(
    Anyway, I'm absolutly grateful for the great advice, Alfonso :D :D :D !
     
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    techneut wrote:
    I agree to this, it´s only the demand to play pieces of Bach with ones own hand, which are composed for other instruments or whole ensembles! For example I love to play the "Air", which is not original for piano, because it´s a complete other (more intensive) event, if I play it myself as if I only listen to it.
     
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    Almost everything Rachmaninoff did was pure genuis.

    Except for the 4th piano concerto... I have issues with that thing...

    Back to the Bach though...

    Generally, I don't listen to many transcriptions. I have a few Busoni transcriptions every now and then, and a few other random people thrown in, but I generally listen to the original performance methods.

    ... I have a feeling you'd hate my transcription of the Toccata in D Minor though. Even though it's such a dreadfully un-Bachian work... my transcription was written more to impress classmates who had only ever heard the piece played on loud organs during horror movies... thus, a lot of those runs that were played across hands in octaves suddenly jumped from 2 to 4 octaves at once, and then the piece was "romanticised" quite a bit, where I'll suddenly slow down or speed up to create an emotional outpouring effect.

    I really should go back and fix it someday to make it less disgusting...

    But I still <3 Bach!!!
     

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