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Schubert - Moments musicaux - No. 3, allegretto moderato

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  1. pianolady

    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    No, no - that's not going to work. :lol:
     
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    My comment is essentially the same as last time. Full marks for your patience, dedication, and hard work - and for the gorgeous sound. But yes, your playing is erratic as soon as notes of different duration come in. In that respect, I see little improvement since your last take on this one. Admittedly, you are taking on a quite taxing little piece here. You did better in the Hungarian melody but that is so much easier, I guess.

    I fear that your since of rhythm will not get better unless you start to a drastic practice regime. I don't want to sound like a teacher (some other member left the forum in a fury when I last did that :? ) but I'd recommend taking out the metronome, set it to a really slow tempo, and then try get all the notes in their right place. You need to back to a speed in which you feel you have absolute control, never mind how slow that is. It may be boring but I think you will see great rewards. One of my teachers said that any mistake during practicing is a waste of time. Not that I live by that principle, far from it, but I do see the point, and apply it occasionally when the going is hard.
     
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    Nice photo !
    What is that piece of music you have standing on the left side ? I can't recognize it :x
     
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    111.

    Didier, you own a Steingräber!!!
     
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    It is indeed. I thought it looked familiar.
     
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    Hi Chris,

    I found you and Monica very severe about my Moment no. 3. I can hear that it's better than my previous recording, not only because of the sound. A little progress may be, but I'm sure that I will have soon this piece right. I have mostly to work on the third theme as pointed out by Monica, very slowly as you recommended to me, which I started. :D

    The answer to your question here attached. Don't plan to submit it here. :wink:

    By the way, would'nt you have forgotten to put up the Hungarian Melody? I did not see it in Schubert - Miscellaneous. :wink:
     
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    No. Mine is a Steingraeber. :wink:
     
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    Yeah I guess we were being painfully honest here :D No doubt you will get it right, but you really need to get your rhythm under control.

    That sounds very beautiful. A shame we can't put incomplete pieces.

    By the way, would'nt you have forgotten to put up the Hungarian Melody? I did not see it in Schubert - Miscellaneous. :wink:[/quote]
    Good that you remind me. I had uploaded the mp3 but not updated the page. Done now.
     
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    I guess you're kidding me about umlauts, but I'm serious! I had previously noticed that you play an extremely fine instrument, I didn't imagine it was a S&S. I discovered this piano maker last year at the MusikMesse in Frankfurt and trying it out (an E272) I can say that it surpassed every other grands I occasionally played before (OK, admittedly not the best place where to test a piano, the MM, but that grand struck me hard). What model is yours?
     
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    Hi Alfonso,

    I apologize for the long delay of this reply. I have left my home for one week sailing without internet. My Steingraeber is a 205. I had the opportunity to play side by side a 205 and a 272. The lows of the 272 are deeper of course and there are more harmonics. As far as I can judge from my little experience, I would say that there is more difference between the 272 and the 205 than between the Steinway D and the Steinway B. I have not yet got any opportunity for playing the new Steingraeber 232, which is competing with the Steinway C, nor the still newer 212 which is an evolution from the 205.

    Congratulations for recognizing the opus 111 from a few bars on a score part appearing on a low resolution photo! :)
     
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    Hi Didier,
    I have listened with pleasure also to this re-recording.

    Very nice dynamics and phrasings are here, but the thirds in bar 9 and similar places could be better worked out. If I remember your previous version, the rhythmical steadiness has improved also here, but is still not exact enough.
    In the a-flat-major-part you leave out some notes of the LH-chords here and there, it´s the same problem like in your recording of the Hungarian melody, btw. I recommend to practise the LH alone for a while, than take the RH again and play the voices together. Usually that helps me a lot.
    Your dynamics are really very fine! And you bring out very good the melody, whereas your left hand is more in the background, right like it should be.
     
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    Andreas, THANK YOU for acknowledging this! :D

    I'm currently on no. 2 again, but still play this one each day. I'll pay more attention to LH. :wink:
     
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    Didier wrote:
    I´m very curious also on your improvements of this one!
     

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