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Schubert, Moments musicaux, No. 2 in A flat major, Andantino

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  1. Didier

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    That was beautiful. I loved your phrasing and dynamics. So soothing.
     
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    Welcome!

    I echo what Pianolady said about your sensitive phrasing and dynamics. This is beautiful. I like the sound of your piano. What kind is it?
     
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    Didier Member Piano Society Artist

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    I am happy that you liked this beautiful music from Franz Schubert. I have played this piece for many years and tried to get it right. I am still on this way but did not want to wait still some years for sharing it here. :wink:

    My piano is a Steingraeber grand.
     
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    A good and musical performance of this affecting piece. Nice touch and dynamics, and clearly you love this piece. It is certainly more than good enough to put on the site. Yet, there are two things that bother me:

    1) Your sometimes erratic tempo. You often pull the tempo about within a bar, rushing the shorter notes along. It this is intended as rubato, it is too much of a good thing.

    2) There are many chords in this piece. In at least half of them, I can't hear all of the notes, especially the bass notes. I realize you make great effort fo make the top voice sing out, and that succeeds very well, but it must not lead to other notes being completely inaudible. Also, your chords are occasionally unevenly attacked (possibly related to the above, not sure if it is a structural problem of its own)

    In bar 2 of the forte section (which could IMO be a bit more desperate) you leave out the second beat, creating a 2/4 bar among all the 3/4 bars. In bars 4 and 5 of that same section, you do not seem to play the A in the last chord which sounds a bit unusual. Apart from that, no mistakes I could hear. Well done !
     
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    Well listened to ! You comments are much relevant to me.

    In the patterns dotted eigth - sixteenth - eigth - dotted eigth - ..., the third note is too short at several times. I shall correct this.
    Indeed, I miss a beat in bar 57, which may strengthen the urgency feeling but is not written by Schubert. The upper A of the last chord at bars 59 and 60 does not sound enough because of the weakness of my fifth finger.
    I can ear all the bass notes at LH. Hence I think that you are complaining about the sounding of the bass notes of the RH chords ?


    I rediscovered your site on yesterday when I was looking for other recordings from Schubert sonatas found here some years ago, by a piano teacher and performer who seems having left now. I then decided to submit my last recording of this moment musical, done the day before not in this intent. I did not expect a so careful listening, for which I thank you again.

    Didier
     
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    Nobody Expects The Spanish Inquisition :lol:

    Yes we try to listen carefully to each submission, especially when it is a first one. Obviously there is not always time and opportunity to do that.

    Yes, it's mainly the RH chords where notes seem to be missing. I am sure you play them, but they can't be heard - at least I can't. And as you say your dotted rhyhms need attention.
     
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    This time, I did my best. :roll:
     
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    I am sure you did your best last time, too :D

    This one is better in terms of touch and accuracy, and it sounds a bit more confident. At least you do not pull the tempo about, and there are hardly any mistakes. So in that repect, well done and this can certainly go on the site if you provide your biography and a photo.

    However I largely have the same nags as before. Your dotted rhyhm is still weak in places (though it HAS improved), there are still may notes not audible (though less than before) and you still leave out that beat in the forte section. Best put a note in your score so that you may remember not to do that (a thing learnt the wrong wau can ge hard to relearn).
     
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    :oops: :oops: :oops:

    I thought: make sound fully the RH chords and take care to the dotted rythm. I forgot the missing beat. :cry:

    Well, again...

    PS I send my biography to robert.
     
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    You need not feel like you should immediately correct everything that is pointed out here. A pleasant performance can well live with a few mistakes. But this one is better still. As you sent Robert the bio I trust he will put this up the site.
     
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    Thank you again for helping me to get this better. :)
     
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    You did a very good job last time and I have put the recording up along with your biography.

    I have also removed your previous recordings from this post and linked the last one from the first post in the topic. That is standard procedure if you wonder.

    Again, welcome!
     
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    This new recording is a bit better, I think, and the sound is more natural. May I suggest that it replaces my previous one ? :roll:
     
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    Would you not be convinced by my recording on yesterday ?
    Well, this one is still better ! :wink:
     
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    Ok - done. Sounded as beautiful as the others.
     
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    Hello all,

    I prefer this new recording to my previous one. I improved my rhythm here and there. And it sounds better. I hope that you will enjoy it and would like much that it replaces my previous one. :roll:


    Schubert - Moments Musicaux, Op.94, No. 2 "Andantino"
     
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    Ok, I've replaced this, Didier. The play time is exactly the same as the previous version.
     
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    Tkank you, Monica! :)

    Yes, the same play time: I have this tempo in the blood. :lol:
     
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    Hi Didier,
    this is very musically and expressively played, with much sensation like we are used of you. And the sound-quality and touch is splendid.
    There are some (few) mostly rhythmically issues I would like to mention:
    in bar 5 you hold the last chord too long, I think.
    Has your edition no c flat in the upper voice in the bars 4 and 5? In my Henle-edition it's an octave c flat on the second last chord in bar 4 and 5. The same in bar 39, 40 and 79, 80.
    Don' t you want to play a bit more the staccato-points in bar 18 following or do you consider them as hand-points?
    In bar 45 the second note you play like an eigth, but it's a quarter-note.

    I really like your rubati, especially in bar 34, 73, in bar 47 you become a bit more lifely (faster) with the sixteenth, in bar 88 and similar places you make wonderfully hesitations in the upper-voice, which brings interpretative colour in your performance. At the begining and similar places it's a very beautiful silence in tempo and rubati (agogic).

    In summary a great performance (with small rhyhtmic imperfections), which proves a player with romantic sense behind the piano.
     

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