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Schubert - Allegretto in C minor, D. 915

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  1. Didier

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    Hello,

    this Schubert piece is not on Pianosociety. Composed on 26 April 1827, dedicated to Ferdinand Walcher. I will certainly come back with a new recording in some months but feel now that I must leave it for some time. Meanwhile, might this recording be put up ? :)
    Anyway thank you in advance for your listening.

    Didier

    Schubert - D.915, Allegretto in C major
     
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    Never heard this before. So I cannot comment on your execution of this piece. All I can say is thank you for sharing.
     
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    I too have not heard this before. Sort of an unusual piece with that one chord that pops in now and then. Phrasing and dynamics sound good. No time this week, but I'll put it up over the weekend.
     
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    I am not familiar with this piece either but I believe you play it good. It sounds well planned and carefully interpreted and I do not hear any strange slips or errors. But as I said, I do not know it.
    I have put it up on the site under "Schubert -> Miscellaneous". I could not find that it was part of any set. If so, let me know.
     
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    No, it is not a part of any set. It was composed and given by Schubert to his friend Walcher, a singer who was a member of the Scubertiades, just before Walcher left Wien. There is a mistake in the title : it is in C minor.
     
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    What an unusual piece! I would have never guessed this was Schubert ... and it sounded very well performed to me! Thx for bringing it to our ears, Didier.

    I'm with you Mon, that chord is bizarre. I'd say it was a New York City composer putting a honking car into the score, but the time period would be off. Maybe a gaggle of geese tromped by while Franz was writing this one??
     
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    Most enjoyable. Not a piece I know. But wonderful playing and a great recording.
    Regards,
    Albert
     
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    Hi Didier,
    really a nice and deep little romantic piece, very reflective IMO. Yes, from it´s caracter it´s typical for Schubert. I didn´t know it until now. And the performance is one more proof of your very sensitive and musical playing. Thank you for sharing.
     
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    Well played, Didier! Difficult t find lackof quality in your playing here.
    And, I insist, the sound (your touch, the piano, and the recording). Congratulations to the pianist,
    and standing ovation for the recording.
    All best,
    Sandro
     
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    I have heard this before, courtesy of Dutch radio, who are absolutely besotted with Schubert. It could not be anything else but Schubert. Not a strong piece though, it rather dawdles and feels like an improvisation. Heavenly length but with too little material. Yet, good to have it on PS.

    Excellent performance, and fantastic sound as usual. Little to niggle about, but if I must, I'd say that sometimes you rush a little bit, and in some places your unisono is not quite even, and some chords are not optimally even. But it's nitpicking - and very small nits at that. Well done !
     
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    Thank to all of you for your kind appreciations. Chris, your reserves are mine. That's why I said in my first post that I intend to re-record this piece in some months. I agree that the material of this piece is not much elaborated. Nevertheless it has a particular charm that explains why it was recorded by great interprets: Arthur Schnabel, Claudio Arrau (two times), Sviatoslav Richter, who performed the slowest allegretto in 7'10 (live recording on 1978), and possibly others.
     
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    Ok Didier, it is done. I see you are quite a bit faster this time (5:10 instead of 5:53). Probably not a bad thing... Richter's long-drawn performance would bore me to death.

    This sounds beautiful, and rhythmically more stable than I am used to from you. One pint of attention could be the equal attack. In some places your hands don't come down together (but in many places they do perfectly).

    One request specifically for you: please do not post recordings in VBR (Variable Bit Rate). My tools can't correctly calculate the duration of a recording unless it is CBR. They came up with 7:28. I'd like to know how iTunes does it, as this displays the correct duration.
     
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    Thank you Chris. I will record at CBR 192 kbps from now. For the tempo, I may have been influenced by the single listening from the twin-CD I bought on yesterday: the 3 last sonates, the Klavierstücke D 946 and this Allegretto from Schubert by Maurizio Pollini (1985). He performed the Allegretto in 5'16". Up to now I used to listen to Claudio Arrau (1978) who performed it in 6'49".
     
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    Bravo, Didier! What a sensitive and expressive performance and what a subtle sound!

    Rhythmically it is really quite well played. You have definitely improved your rhythmic steadiness and accuracy.

    The only thing is, that the octaves of the LH and RH often are not well together, and more, if there ar two different voices in the RH and LH, f.ex. in parts like in bar 17 - 21.

    The last two bars before the last thin final stroke (dünner Doppelstrich) you play completely other notes than shown in my score. (Boston, Oliver Ditson, 1912. from imslp.org)
    But there seem to be different versions, on imslp.org I found a Breitkopf und Härtel-edition, in which there are more passages (such which you don´t play) and others.

    Another tip: be aware on the minor thirds in the tenor like in bar 5 and similar and bar 29 and similar. I do not hear these very important minor thirds, may be you play them very silent or not, I don´t know.

    It´s a great pleasure to listen to this very musical recording!
     
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    Andreas, I'm always stunned by your listening accuracy. I checked that indeed the LH Cflat at bar 5 did not sound, likely because I wanted to play too soflty.

    Yes, not in my Henle score too...

    I felt that Franz was in a hurry for giving its score to his friend who was on leave. So he indicated an exact repetition. I wanted to suggest to him this slight variation... It was already in my first recording, which is not a justification since errrare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum... Anyway if Franz does not like it, I sincerely apologize to him.
     
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    Didier wrote:
    No need to apologize, it´s just creative. I think, the old great pianist have also done such things. :)
     

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