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  1. PJF

    PJF New Member Piano Society Artist

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    I'm about to purchase an Edirol (you'll all finally get something from me other than text)! I see there are different models; is one better than the other?

    The R-09 caught my eye as a recorder that won't break my budget. Is the R-09 adequate? What do you guys think?

    I've never put my own recordings on my computer; I'm totally clueless as to what to do. Do I need special software to make WAV files? What accessories beside the microphone will I need?

    I greatly appreciate your help!

    PF
     
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    I have the Edirol R-09 and it works fine by me and it records directly to mp3 if you wish. What you need next is a cable connecting to the USB-plug of your computer. That was included when I bought my Edirol. Next, you might want to cut out useless space in the beginning and the end of the piece. Use any WAV-editor as for example Audacity (you can also add effects as reverb etc. using such software). Then you need to upload the recording to the Audition Room and we take care of the rest.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    I purchased the R-09 about two months ago. Everything Robert said is right. It's easy to use. You'll have to play around with positioning the unit in the room where you'll record and at first this takes time. Also, you need ear plugs to listen back to yourself when you're not plugging it in to your computer. And I learned that you can record yourself as either a wav file or mp3. I don't really know that that means but the recorder will allow you much more recording time when you set it on mp3. It's really fun to record yourself. You'll probably get addicted, like I am now. Can't wait to hear your recordings!
     
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    Hehe... another one joins the Edirol gang :wink: I really think we should be getting group discount by now. Though that won't help us poor sods who already have one...

    I have the R09's predecessor, the R-1. It probably makes no difference in either quality or functionality.

    Looking forward to your recordings Pete. The complete Chopin for starters ? :p
     
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    I too have a R-09. But lately I have been thinking of selling it because of the lack of a nice(r) piano. Then maybe once I graduate I could buy myself a decent grand like a yamaha and a microphone or two.
     
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    HA HA! This should keep me busy for a while.

    Chopin: 3 Waltzes, 8 Preludes and 5 Mazurkas. Three Nocturnes opus 9, Nocturne in C-sharp minor op. posth. Scherzo No.1 in b minor, Seven Etudes from "Twelve Etudes, opus 10" Three Etudes from "Twelve Etudes opus 25"

    Beethoven: "Moonlight Sonata" Adagio, Allegretto and Presto con fuoco

    Scott Joplin: Mapleleaf Rag, The Entertainer, The Easy Winners, others.

    Mozart: K330 Complete
     
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    Is a microphone included with the R-09 or do I need to buy one seperately?

    PF
     
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    the r-09 has its own internal microphone, however you can purchase an external microphone if you wish, but be prepared to shell out +/- $140.
     
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    Thanks for the help, everybody! :D

    I just placed my order for the R-09! I should have it by January 10th.

    Pete
     
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    Does an external microphone really make a BIG difference?
     
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    If you have pair of good stereo condenser mics, and place them in the perfect position, it would probably make a considerable difference. problem is that once you have this machine you get lazy and can't really be bothered to fart around with cables, microphone stands and power supplies.....
    That would take much of the fun out of recording. Not sure if it's worth it.
     
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    I think I'll leave the cables to the pros.

    Thanks everone!

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    The problem is that condenser mics need additional power (+48V, called "Phantom Power"). That's why external condenser mics cannot be plugged in into the Edirol (since it does not deliver the phantom power, correct me if I am wrong).
    Regarding lazy, that's the point. It really takes much of the fun if all that mic stands stuff must be established. Furthermore, I often wished I had recorded something live before friends. With an Edirol placed decently, it would be no problem. However it looks somehow strange if I would put the microphones and everything on if I simply play before friends. That does not look appropriate, and it robs the loose atmosphere. I too consider buying such an Edirol, just for those occasions.

    Beside this I will check for the reason why my recordings sound way muffled and dull to me by comparison. Up to now I use a pair large diaphragma condenser mics, a small mixer, external sound card going directly into a notebook. I am dreaming from substituting the mixer (which is only used for phantom power and gain) by a tube preamplifier. That should make the thing more crisp (so I hope) but adds warm through the valves. Let's see.
    Has anyone experience with tube preamplifiers?
     

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