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Poulenc - Improvisation No. 13

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  1. pianolady

    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist

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    I like this too. Some nice harmonic twists and turns. Nicely played, though I personally would try to be a bit more decadent with rubato, etc. Not that I'm overly knowledgeable on Poulenc, so that's more an initial impression than informed opinion on my part.
     
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    Monica,

    Yes, that is a wonderful piece. Reminds me of those lush 1930s and 1940s romantic movie themes. It has a very romantic character with a harmonic twist now and then. Your performance was very good and brought forth that wonderful romantic character.

    Scott
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist

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    Thank you, Andrew and Scott. I actually video-recorded this piece too, but I'm too embarrassed to show anybody. I did play it with more rubato and so forth, but then decided it was just too 'schmultzy' like that and so I did another audio-only recording this morning and played it pretty straight-forward, which is really how I prefer it now. And I am so excited - had a great afternoon reading through two or three other improvisations from this set and discovered that I also like them very much! I love when that happens - I feel all bubbly inside and can't tear myself away from the piano (ok, maybe I am a dork...)
     
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    If you are a dork, then you are in good company here. How many non-dorks would spend their time playing and thinking about classical music.

    Scott
     
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    Right !
    Actually it's the others that are dorks, not us :lol:
     
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    A great piece, nicely played. A bit straight-laced tempo-wise, maybe you should have kept the first version with the more rubato. One should not be afraid of being a bit schmaltzy in Poulenc.

    Unless my ears deceive me, the final chord is not ideally together. I mention that only because I gotta have something to nitpick...
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist

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    hohoho - that is an extremely fine-picked nit if ever I've seen one! :lol: :lol: Anyway, thank you!

    You know, there are fifteen in this set - I don't think I can do all of them myself. I am perfectly willing to share if anyone else wants to record some more Poulenc...
     
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    Yes, I'm good at that :D
    It's true though, isn't it. All the more a pity because this exquisite ending is otherwise perfectly done. That not-quite-smooth closing chord spoils it just a little bit for me. I have on occasion re-recorded a last bar for similar micro-nitpicky reasons. The end is the most important part of any piece
    (in addition to the beginning, and the middle :lol: )
     
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    This is a good one and I like the way you do it. I would not bother with rubati: much better to keep away from thieves (Rubato=rubare=to steal): one keeps good time without keeping bad company.

    Funny: I seem to remember that first figure from somewhere else. Does he mention borrowing the motive?
     
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    I dunno....I'm wondering if it's the reverb that is making it sound to you like those three notes are not coming down together. To me, it sounds okay but I guess I can re-record the end and see if I can get it any better.

    Thank you, Richard. I agree that a piece like this doesn't need any 'enhancement'. The structure itself and markings provide the right amount of 'je ne sais quoi', IMHO.
     
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    Nah, I don't think it is the reverb. If anything, reverb tends to smooth out any minor inegalities (that's why I like to use it so much :mrgreen: ).
    If I'm the only one who hears this, don't bother about it.
     
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    Yes, the chord is split. Funny thing is, I quite like it like that and think it's in character. Then again, I am addicted to left hand before right effects.
     
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    Glad I am not the only one to hear it.

    Yeah I know... and I am allergic to them :D
     
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    Really? You both hear it??? I don't really hear it. But I did actually re-recorded the ending a bunch of times yesterday but then I remembered that I had a cake in the oven that I needed to attend to, and then I didn't get around to fixing up this recording. When I do get a chance - maybe you can see if it's better okay? :)
     
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    Of course we don't hear it. We're both winding you up :p
     
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    Hmmm....you know what they say...."payback is a bitch". :) :p
     
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    Hi Monica,

    Great playing! I had not heard this No. 13 before, so it was a real treat. Very romantic with some bittersweet turns of phrase. Very nice.

    David
     
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    Hi David and thank you!
    I agree, I think this is such a pretty piece too! :)
     
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    Hi Monica,
    I understand, why you love this piece so much. That´s indeed also my taste of good and interesting music.
    I think, you play this piece very well. Following with score I noticed some nice moments of imitation between soprano and tenor voice here, so in bar 10, where you bring it out very clearly, and in bar 22, where you could bring it out a bit more eventually, in bar 50 also and in the penultimate bar in ppp. I don´t know, if you have made thoughts about these structural phenomenons. If I would play that piece I wouldn´t always bring out these imitations too self-confident, but somehow I would play with them with some consciousness. Just an idea!

    I would be up to be play this piece, too. I´m sure I also will play some further pieces by Poulenc in future.
     

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