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Should a set of many short items be posted as individual tracks or as one single track ?

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  1. techneut

    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    I am recording the first book of Bartok's "For children", a beautiful set which I love dearly. About 35 pieces, some of them are very short (like under 30 seconds). I can't decide whether to post individual tracks or one single track. With separate tracks it's a chore to listen to the complete set (unless you download all of them and create a playlist), but then with one large track it's a problem if you want to locate one particular item.

    Can you vote for this and/or post your educated opinion ?
     
  2. Terez

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    Before I vote....is there any way you can make them individual tracks in a folder that can be downloaded all at once? I know it's not the Piano Society way of doing things....but perhaps you could have that option in addition to the single track that you can just listen to from the site?
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    That would be nice, if users could download an entire set in one action. I am not sure how to achieve that though. Ideally, mp3 tracks on a page should have checkboxes you could click (and one for 'Select all'), like you can do in Vista Explorer, and then a 'Download' button to go do it. But our CMS (Content Management System) does not work like that.

    An indexed mp3 would be an option perhaps. There seems to be such a thing. Need to check up on that.

    I guess in cases like this we could do both - have all the individual tracks AND the master track on the page. Perhaps that would be the nicest option but we will use up a lot more disk space if we'd want to do that for all CS's. Hm....
     
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    I wouldn't necessarily suggest doing it for all complete sets - but it's definitely a good idea for sets where the individual tracks are so short.

    It's really hard to choose one way or the other with the current setup - I'm thinking the pros and cons are about equal for each option. I'm guessing you feel the same way, since you posted this poll. :lol:
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Good point. The two Grieg sets I posted previously would be candidates too.

    You got it :wink:
    As nobody's voted yet, I have added the 'Both' option to the poll.
     
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    >About 35 pieces, some of them are very short (like under 30 seconds).

    But all pieces are independent pieces. Individual tracks, was my expressed vote.

    Bye,
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  7. techneut

    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Actually, that is another issue ... some pieces lead into the next via an 'attacca' or 'attacca ad lib.'. So there is a case for a complete track, too. I am starting to think of doing it both ways in a case like this.
     
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    I think individual tracks are better because it will be much easier to listen to one piece several times in a row if they are seperated. IMO, with offering whole sets of pieces to download the traffic of the site will be increased unnecessarily.
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    That is a good point which I had not considered so far. Many people may not want the whole wad (not being compulsive completists like myself :D )
     
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    All in all, I for one think that in the rare cases of many short pieces one big file plus a cue file stands as the best option. And only if server space is not an issue, also single files ought to be supplied.
     
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    alf Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    I still see only 2 options. I would have voted for "both" instead of "one single track".
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    I had updated the poll twice, and did not see the 'Both' option. Starting to think it could not be done. But I tried once more, and now it worked.... Three times lucky :roll:

    Cast your vote please !
     
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    If you create a text file with the extension ".m3u" and enter the full path URLs of the individual tracks then they will all be opened sequentially by your media player (certainly by Windows Media Player and Winamp).

    You could then list each item individually and then have a "play all" link to the m3u file for the full set for those who want the whole lot streaming in one.

    PM on this if you would like.
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Thanks for that, pb. Sounds a great idea, and moreover sounds like something I should have known about :)

    If that works with all the major players like Winamp, WMP, and iTunes, it may just be the ideal solution to my conundrum. I'll try it out, any tips you may have are appreciated.
     
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    one, both....

    I voted for"Individual" because it's nice to be able to select a particular piece from a set to listen to. I started to vote "both." It would be convenient for the listener to have the option to decide which way s/he would prefer. However, that's probably too much extra work for such a small convenience. The moderators are too busy already.
     
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    I too voted in favor (favour) for individual tracks. If the composer had the intention of making it into one composition, then s/he would place a fermata (or the like) in between each piece.
     
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    In the case of Bartok, his ultra short pieces should most certainly be grouped into one track. I believe Bartok himself told as much to Gyorgy Sandor.

    For the purposes of this site, one long track for mini-pieces is a no-brainer; I really would be turned off by having to separately select and save individual tracks that are barely 40 seconds.

    If one wants a specific piece, they can extract what they need via audacity.


    About kinderszenen, they should most certainly be posted in separate tracks!

    (I need Raymond to explain my logic to me, here.) :lol:

    Pete
     
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    Retrologic? :lol:
     
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    Is there any other kind?
     
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    Yes I fully agree.

    Yeah but few if any people would bother to do that.

    I can't get the playlist to work as yet :x And that is not ideal either as it gives no download opportunity. I need to look into the idea of an indexed mp3.
     

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