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Medtner - Ophelia's song

Discussion in 'Submission Room' started by techneut, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. techneut

    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    This is probably Medtner's shortest and easiest piece, and possibly one of the most appealing, not being afflicted by Medtner's usual prolixity. Amitai Schlair recorded this for PS some years ago, but it's been a long time favorite of mine, too. IIRC it was some of the first Medtner I heard and played, and that creates a special bond.

    Medtner - Fairy Tale Op.14 No1 "Ophelia's song" (4:07)
     
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    Hi Chris,
    Day off today! Just listened to this. Very well played. I don't know the work, but all the basic elements are well controlled: tempo and variations of same, projected melody, dynamic contrast, clear rhythm. Ophelia is certainly a sad women. Later the work achieves a clear level of anguish (that seems too great for a child). Interestingly, for much of the melody, I couldn't get out of my head that it sounds much like a chant (perhaps from a Russian Orthodox source?). Thanks for the post.

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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    Thanks Eddy. :D
    Why does the anguish seem too great for a child ? Ophelia was a noblewoman, a young one maybe, but not a child.
    Now you mention it, yes the melody in the countersubject is very like a chant, maybe a dirge. It's a haunting piece isn't it !?
     
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    Hi Chris,

    Had a listen to your performance, I have never heard Medtner before, this piece seems full of lyrical melodies that seem to linger after the cadence. I like how you hold the note, for example at 1:21 and then pedal off for a short time. It's like the end of a chapter in the fairy tale, judging by the title. For criticism I would liked more gradation in the dynamics for example after 3:03, the next section seemed like it should have been softer, but I don't have the score so that is just something I'm guessing at :p .

    Sounded nice

    Riley
     
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    Thanks Riley. I'm following the dynamics as written.
     
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    Hi Chris,

    Very nice playing of Ophelia's Song. You certainly gave it its due in every respect. Sounds great. And yes, this piece is not wrapped in Medtner's prolixity--not a hint of it. (That was one of my criteria too when I chose the Sonata-Elegia--no musical verbosity.) Thanks for posting it.

    David
     
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    Thanks David. The Skazki are without exception wonderful and to the point. I'm thinking of recording some more.
     
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    Nice playing; perhaps a little more depth of sonority in the first page might have been good - for some reason I found the sound there a little thin. I did wonder about the r.h. grace notes: my preference would be towards elongation rather than quasi-acciaccature; I think it suits the character. (I'm subconsciously a bit influenced by how I believe the l.h. cello-like entry after the introduction of Liszt's Funerailles should be interpreted, whilst Liszt's piece is more heroic, they both have a strong element of dolour). The rit as the music approaches the C min section is very effectively done.
     
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    Thanks Andrew. About sonority, I'm not sure how my Gaveau sounds thin. I didn't want to lean into the keys straight away. It would probably sound deeper on a 9ft concert grand... but I don 't have one :(
     
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    It did occur to me when writing my comments that I'd made practically the converse comment about its sound on your last Debussy recording, and thus I'm probably just being impossible! I do however think the sound decays a bit more rapidly than it maybe should.
     
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    Contrary woman :p
     
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    That´s also a succeeded throw, Chris. Nice interpretation and good phrasing IMHO. It was pure pleasure to listen to!
     
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    Thank you ! Nothing to nitpick then ? :p
     
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    Techneut wrote:
    No, couldn´t find anything! :cry: :lol:
     
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    Gah, you're getting soft :p
     
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    Techneut wrote:
    We will see that, I´m awaiting your next WTC-rerecordings with big curiosity! :twisted:
     
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    Oh, dear. I best go back to the drawing board then ! Don't think I'm ready for a recording yet :)
     

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