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Madetoja - 3 Romances Op.17

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  1. techneut

    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    Leevi Madetoja (1887-1947) was a Finnish composer who studied with Jean Sibelius, Vincent d'Indy and Robert Fuchs. He wrote these three miniatures in 1913. The second, arguably the best, has gained some popularity but I don't think there was a complete recording anywhere on the web yet. I really like no.2, and it was the reason for recording this set. No.1 is nice too, but I don't care so much for no.3 which I only recorded for the sake of completeness.

    Madetoja - 3 Romances Op.17 - 1: You were closest to me (1:30)
    Madetoja - 3 Romances Op.17 - 2: Little Romance (2:17)
    Madetoja - 3 Romances Op.17 - 3: Dance (1:17)

    I also made a video of these : https://youtu.be/skg5tnoCwZ8
     
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    That was nice music, and I think you played it well! I actually liked no. 3 better than no. 1.
    Interesting little movement there with your hand and chin..... :p
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    Ummm, what little movement was that :?:
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    You must know. Besides, if I say exactly where it is, then people reading this will skip ahead in the video to that spot. It's better if they watch the whole video, right?
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    Oh, I see what you mean now. A rhetorical gesture slightly too far. I hope it's not too embarrassing. At least I did not have to scratch my nose, as sometimes happens.
     
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    It is already really good. One thing you could improve in Nos. 1 and 2 is to make the piano sing more, as if there were no hammers striking keys but rather like a melody instrument (flute etc.). Maybe the keys for the melody notes should be held down a bit longer to get this "singing tone", especially in No. 1.
     
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    I struggle to have anything particularly meaningful to say, but I thought number three was the most appealing! - quite a nice miniature imo. Nicely put together video, incidentally.
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    Thanks Daniel. I agree that no.1 is a bit too load and pedestrian (which did not occur to me while recording). I think I'll re-record this set in audio only, I can't be bothered to make another video - this is too much work already.

    Thanks :) If only I could manage to look a bit happier on video. I should really capture the keyboard only.
     
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    Nice playing. I'd never heard of this composer, though I do know and like some of Indy's music. I think you play no. 2 the best: there's more tenderness and dynamic shading in it, and you seem to capture the mood of the piece.
     
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    Thx Mark. I think no.2 comes off best too. If it wasn't for no.2 I would not have recorded this set.
     
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    Hi Chris,

    I must admit that I'm unfamiliar with this composer, but his compositions have a lot of charm as heard in your performances here. I believe that these romances give the impression that they are more nostalgia than passion. But your playing brings out the best in all three numbers in my opinion. You exhibit a fine technique in meeting the demands, and your interpretations are very convincing. Marvelous playing!

    David
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    Thank you David. It 's too much honor really. Even though these pieces are easy (except the last few bars of no.3) I could have spent more time with them.
    Actually I was thinking there were only two. When I had recorded them to satisfaction (at that moment) and sat down to process them I discovered there was a third.
    I printed it out, got back to the piano and had it captured in half an hour. I was impatient to get it over with as I found not liking this one much, so did not bother to iron out the two tiny flaws that maybe few people would even hear.
     
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    Nice find, I enjoyed them! No 1 you play a bit perfunctorily, I would use a slightly slower tempo and let the phrases swell out more. No 2 is the most interesting and you do project an intense feeling of longing and wehmut and occasional hesitations and uncertainties which come across as completely honest, evidently this struck a chord with you. Judging from the sheet music would do it a bit differently, perhaps with a slightly faster tempo (it does say con moto) to better bring out the long singing phrases. This is purely subjective. And I am glad you completed no 3 because it rounds off the set with a springy feeling and catchy melody which you make relaxed and fun in an unpretentious way - if this is the result of half an hour then you are in much better shape than I am. Over all well done!

    Joachim
     
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    Thanks Joachim ! Indeed no.2 strikes a chord with me, much more than no's 1 and 3. I am still contemplating redoing no.1, as it is indeed a bit stiff, and no.3 as there are two flaws. I will not redo the video though. I hate making videos....
     
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    I usually listen the mp3's for a 'sanity check', but thought I would treat myself to a video. Glad I did, since I was able to see your physical approach to the instrument, which is very solid. My teachers would have loved your arm and hand deployment.

    Also, I was glad to see that you used the Tascom for the video; the sound was good.

    As I write this, I'm listening to Madetoja's Lyric Suite for cello and piano - very beautiful. Thanks for introducing me to this composer.
     
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    Glad to hear that :) I'm all for efficient playing without unnecessary hand and arm movements.

    A smartphone seems kinda ok for video, but is awful for audio. Although I remember a recording done on iPhone (I think it was from Eddy) which had quite good sound.
     

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