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    Hi alf,

    That's interesting about the Russian Milstein edition. And Brendel is, in fact, scholarly in comparing editions and sources, particularly where he delves so much into Beethoven and Schubert, as well as Liszt. Seems like the evidence is about equal on both sides at the moment. I wish in the Henle urtext that they had provided an extensive commentary at the end of the volume dealing with details, but they didn't. More to come, I'm sure.

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    OK, I found a member at Pianophilia who has the G. Schirmer Joseffy edition. (Man, they're good over there in producing scores!) Joseffy shows it as a B natural, and on this matter he is probably the best tie-breaker we could have. So, I'm now convinced and have changed it to B natural in my Henle urtext. Hopefully, Francois' good professor won't come back with a contrary view. :)

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    Hello David,
    I've just got the answer from him: " Si bécarre, bien sûr! l'harmonie est très claire, et le si bémol de la main droite n'est "qu'"une appogiature du la bémol." which can be translated as 'B natural for sure ! The harmony is very clear, and the right-hand B flat is only an appogiatura of the A flat".
    I guess that is the end of the "quest for the real B" :)
    Enjoy the Vallee, whatever the B,
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    Hi francois,

    That's totally confirming, so that it would seem now that the preponderance of evidence supports the B natural. This was a hard one to sort out.

    David
     

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