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  1. musicusblau

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    Well, I think, this should be possible. I suppose, I will have to record some applause of one of my CD´s, because I have no ready applause in Pinnacle or WaveLab.
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Ok, I am very depressed right now, because it did not go well today. Sorry you guys - I feel really bad. I'll have another go at it tomorrow.

    Taking a bow at the end is a neat idea (except I don't like the way I look which is why I usually hide behind my hair. But I'll do it because it would be funny.) Should I do this when I record again tomorrow - like should I bow at the end - right when I get done playing? Or should I just stop the recorder and then make a separate video of me bowing?

    Sorry, again.[​IMG]
     
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    I was thinking...
    when I record myself playing... how can I say it was good? I won't be able to listen to it together with yours and Monica's part.

    how can I check? any suggestion?

    okay... if I had WaveLab... hehe :lol:
     
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    Monica...

    take it easy.
    your part is really difficult. you can do it tomorrow IF YOU WANT... but maybe you could relax and do it again in the future. no pression!
    it's really difficult.
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Felipe - thanks for what you said up above. Just hearing you say that this top part is hard makes me feel a little better. Tomorrow morning when I wake up, I am going to eat a lot of carbohydrates, protein, pop some vitamins, drink a lot of coffee, and then hopefully I can get something decent on tape. If not, I will come back here and cry again....

    and p.s. - Hart is Italian - forgot to tell you that earlier. (but I am half-German)

    pss - as long as you are listening to the audio track while you record, your part should come out fine. At least I think so - I really can't think about this anymore tonight.
     
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    Felipesarro wrote:
    Well, you can try it with Audacity, but I have no experience concerning this program, I always had difficulties, because it can´t convert to mp3. (It always says it needs a lame-enc-device or such a stupid thing, and I don´t know, where I can find this.)

    There is another aspect: even if your playing is not too perfect concerning the synchronization, I have the possibility to correct little meanderings in time with the audio-montage-window of WaveLab. (See picture below. That´s a screenshot of my editing of Chris´ version of Mikrokosmos op. 3/68, in which he played both piano-parts himself.) But it´s always very complicated to do this well, so that you can´t hear the transitions of the cuts. So, the best is, if your original is still so perfect, that I don´t need to correct anything more. :)
     
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    Pianolady wrote:
    Yes, please, do a separate video of you bowing, and Felipe should do a separate video. So, it would be easier for me to edit it. (You save me doing cuts.)

    Your part really is very difficult, Monica. If I would have to play it, it would have took until end of octobre to do the recording, I believe. I always need very much time to get such things properly and I need to practise very hard. So, it would be a true miracle, if you could get it perfectly played in such a short time and between doing so much other things. -So, there is really no reason to be sad. You are a very good player, Monica![​IMG]
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Ok, here goes round 2 (cross your fingers). See you in a few hours!
     
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    The lame encoder for audacity can be found here:

    http://lame.buanzo.com.ar/

    However, I would not recommend using Audacity to convert to MP3, because its encoder only accepts a fix setting with 128 kbps and very poor quality (you can hear metallic reverbaration sounds in the background). Instead, I'd use it just to listen to the wave files in a combined fashion (and not mixing them down, of course) to check and see if the synchronization is good.
     
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    thanks for the tip, but I already knew it.
    I was thinking about other way of doing so... because it's by no means pratical to record myself playing, then I go to the computer and synchronize, and only afterwards I can listen to it and check it was not good.

    but I have no other idea. I think it has no other way of doing this.
     
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    Couldn't you do it in your 4-track recorder?
     
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    not really.
    Andreas wants me to send a 44.1kHz 24 bits (CD quality), and my Zoom H4 records only in MP3 format if I activate the multi-track mode.
    besides, if I record in the multi-track mode, I don't know if I can send to Andreas only my part (probably I can, this is just something I don't know how to do, hehe). and if I can't isolate my part, that would be completely unbalanced, because anyone recorded in a different piano, with a different mic setup, etc. (so my part would probably or too low or too high -- regarding volume).
     
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    still working....

    but it's going better today - think I've got a "keeper".

    stay tuned.... :)
     
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    I'm back...having some tiny little problems. First a question: When you accidentally record something with the input level too high and you get a little clipping - can you bring down the overall volume of the file and then you won't have the clipping anymore? I have tried that just now, but I still hear clipping. But I'm not totally sure if it is clipping or if my ear plugs are just buzzing.

    my other problem is that I'm having trouble syncing the audio with the video. It seems to start off fine but gets out of sync by the time it gets to the end. btw - this is only the first page that I'm talking about. I've recorded the whole piece and ended up with 5 breaks. Sorry - but I wanted to get very clean playing and this was the only way to so do.

    any tips for me as I continue with the editing?
     
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    send your recording to me, Monica, and I can try removing the clipping.

    when the clipping is not too intense, my program removes it completely (if you want to check, you can listen to my Etudes Symphoniques, those variations which start at 14:08 and at 17:32. both were clipping and I had to remove them). on the other hand, if it has too many clips... it does half the work.
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Oh, I'm so glad to know that, Felipe. And something weird just happened - I wanted to redo the first section (page 1) and used the exact same input levels on my Edirol, but for some weird reason it is softer than all my other files. It's like my earlier recording session something jacked up the volume on my Edirol without me knowing. Weird. Anyway, remember I have five breaks so I have five files. The first file is now okay (that's my redo). But the next four are peaking out (I think). I'll send them to you sometime tonight. Should I email them to you or put them up here?

    Or....just thought of this - should I finish editing them and stick them all together like the one complete piece? (minus the first track)
     
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    you'd better send me by mail.

    I'll remove the clipping of ALL OF THEM, otherwise there will be difference in the volume level.
    when I receive all your five files, can I put all of them in one single file? I'll not make any edits. this is with you, and can't be done before removing the clipping (you know... if you make the edits right now, then after removing the clipping the cuts will be audible and ugly. so it must be done before).

    I must paste all of them into one single file, otherwise the volume level will be different for each one of your files (because each one has a different peak level).
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Ok, I'll send you all five. But remember, the first one is way different than the other four. Is that okay?
    Also, I can connect them into one file but not do the editing - I won't take out the gaps between the sections - is that ok? or would you rather have five separate files?
     
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    Hi, I´m here again, after having recorded and edited my new Bach-recording (prel. and fugue c-major, WTCII) all the night, whew. :) But I´m very happy with my new production. :D

    Monica and Felipe: I´m astonished, that you can delete the distortion (clipping). I don´t know how to do this, but if you say, your editing-program is able to do that, Wave Lab will probably also be able, but I just don´t know. So, I have to look into instruction manual, I think. How do you do this, Felipe?

    mgasilva wrote:
    Thanks for that, Marcello, that could be really solve the problem I always had with Audacity. :D (Of course, I personally don´t use it, because with Wave Lab I have a much better program.)

    Felipesarro wrote:
    I´m astonished, that your Zoom H4 records only in mp3-format in multi-track mode, my one accepts all file-format, even 96000 Khz, but may be it´s, because I have a 8GB San disc memory card in it.
    You can send me your isolated track, you should read in the manual of Zoom H4 how to do. :wink: The different volume is absolutely no problem, I can correct such things in Wave Lab, the other thing is the different sound-quality, which I can not correct. I fear, we have to live with that. :roll:

    Monica, I have another question: I would like to record some pieces of Ludovico Einaudi. It´s a contemporary piano-composer and film-composer. I like some of his works. I was a pupil of Luciano Berio, one of my favorite contemporary composers and his piano-works have some minimalistic and Satie-like structures. Would you accept recordings of compositions by him here on Pianosociety or may I to do it only for YouTube? The pieces I would like to record are from his piano-work "Le Onde" (1998), which is not film-music, but a piano-solo-work. I only ask, because these pieces are a bit cross-over to the pop-area, on the other hand they are serious, so I don´t know, if it is the right thing for this site.

    Here is some information about him:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludovico_Einaudi
    http://www.einaudiwebsite.com/
     

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