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Hurricane Gustav Must Die.

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  1. Nicole

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    Ok, I don't mean to scare you, Pete........but yes, I looked at pics of Hurricane Katrina a few hours ago and saw not only brick houses that had crumbled, but also a shot of a giant piece of plywood that had come off a window and was flying down the French Quarter at incredible speed. That's gotta smart to get hit with that in the face. Or worse yet, what if a small vehicle takes wind and blows into your house. Or if any massive flooding, all of the bacteria that could be in the water.

    Consider getting out if you can, ok. I see that our Canadian Military has even started to fly there ahead of time to help those who have procrastinated in getting out or are refusing to get out and could be in real trouble.
     
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    I second what Brian and Nicole just said. Hold on tight, Pete!!
     
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    HA! B, I didn't mean to stress you out; to tell you the truth, I'm not stressed out, more of a feeling of resolve that I will be uncomfortable for a while, my house is REALLY impervious to flying debris, except the windows and even they are all covered in 2" of plywood attached with 4" screws. The house has a concrete block exterior covered in brick; trust me, I know it will stand up to flying debris. (It was designed with that very thing in mind.)

    I am concerned about the windows; so today, I reinforced the boarding that was already up with a second layer of 1" plywood and about 40 - 4" screws around each frame. On top of the plywood that was already there, I reinforced my large living room window with a solid, vertical row of 2x4's and 6, 5" screws EACH 2x4! That should do a decent job at deflecting things. I know the boarding-up job will stand up to the wind and most flying stuff but there will be projectiles of some kind that may break through. An interior, leeward room will keep me safe. I sure don't look forward to filling in all those screw-holes in my window frames! In retrospect, I should've used a couple layers of sheet metal on top of the plywood; that was my one error.

    Why did I re-board everything? A bit of bad news...Hurricane Gustav is looking better organized than the previous 12 hours and a large, 40 mile wide eye could form within the next 6 hours. Barometric pressure has been steadily falling for the last 6 hours with the forecast intensity at landfall increased to 130mph - on the cusp of a cat 4. So for my location, bottom line is what I basically thought it would be 30 hours ago, 110mph sustained wind with gusts to 130mph. All power lines will be blown down, cars will be heavily damaged and some blown over, all roof tiles will be stripped and some roofs will completely fail, most trees will not stand, all mobile homes will collapse and some weaker framed homes will experience wall failure.

    The forecast track is down the center of the red and white lines in my previous map, right over me. I don't take these things lightly and I'm prepared for every contingency (I really am.) Across the street from me, I do have a steel reinforced concrete building to go to if the track is shifted to the left and/or the intensity increases unexpectedly.

    I don't want to worry you all - I wouldn't be here if I felt threatened - and I do appreciate all your concerns. I feel prepared. And I have acted as thoroughly as I could. Some of my next door neighbors that have stayed, have not boarded up a thing and live in houses far less well constructed than mine.

    I was astounded to learn of someone SOUTHEAST of me was planning to "have a hurricane party" in a MOBILE HOME!!! That's just brainless. I called the police anonymously and reported that. I think that was my civic duty. No? I'll let you know how they fare.
     
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    A round-the-clock curfew goes in effect for my area tomorrow at 6am.

    Hurricane Gustav now exhibiting a well developed eye structure. The factors that were weakening the system 12hours ago are abating, a strengthening trend is expected up to landfall.

    Forecaster Pete :lol:
     
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    Pete etal, this is the strangest phenonemon known to me, it happened with Katrina as well...
    The weather at my house in Illinois is absolutely perfect while others in the USA are
    experiencing the most destructive natural force known. Good luck, but it sounds like you
    are ready.
     
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    Yeah, I know, Brian. Haven't we had the most perfect weather for this holiday weekend? We've been partying everyday/night since Friday and tomorrow is supposed to be another perfect 10 (we're going to the jazz fest at Grant Park). Doesn't seem fair, does it? Pete - you still have much nicer winters than we do, though.
     
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    It's not your imagination, one of the determining factors in strong hurricanes is mid-latitude ridging. A calm weather pattern 1000mi or more around a system is quite common.
    A strange phenomenon in south Louisiana with approaching hurricanes is hot weather, it was 95F yesterday. Hot weather usually follows a storm, too.
    Both of these phenomena are associated with high pressure systems that are usually at the periphery of hurricanes.

    BTW, gas prices nationwide could spike 20 cents or more because of Gustav. The world's second largest oil refinery could be damaged enough by the storm to shut it down for 2-4 weeks.
     
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    My mom got pulled over by the cops on the way home tonight because of curfew - they said the curfew's in effect till the storm is over. :lol:

    Well, your modem will lose power too. But you probably won't be out for that long - I was at Ground Zero for Katrina and it took less than two weeks for them to get the power going. Cable took a little bit longer, though - I didn't get cable (and internet) back until 9-16-05 (Katrina hit on 8-29-05).

    I can attest to that, too. And I don't think my perception was just off for Katrina because there was no AC, either. It was HOT, and remarkably dry for a long time. We didn't get any rain at all between Katrina and Rita, and we didn't get any after Rita for a while, either...
     
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    I read this just now (I don't come often to the General Forum). Pete, I wish you well.
     
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    Thanks, Alf!

    Right now I'm experiencing 40-50mph steady wind. There's the occasional rain shower, and the power is of course still on. That will change significantly! :lol:

    Police presence is heavy. I even saw a few Army trucks passing through!

    I will be in the calm of the eye, that will be a cool experience.

    Gustav still a borderline 2/3 with 110mph sustained wind. I will not see sustained cat3 conditions but will feel ~100mph sustained wind at some point. A higher gust will of course will be worse than that.
     
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    The wind has picked up since I began typing this message. It's about 50mph sustained. It's getting noisy...

    My computer is on a windward wall with the one small tree that may fall (a 40ft oak) so I'm moving it to a center room now, so bye for now.

    Until after the storm, this has been a special report from PWN, The Pete Weather Network. :lol:
     
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    Let us know when you get electricity back, dude! On the news here, they're saying whole parishes down by you are out of power for maybe 3-4 weeks!! :shock:
     
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    Poor Pete. What a royal pain in the a** that must be. Nathan, did you have any problems where you live?

    Gustav is coming to visit me tomorrow. It's supposed to rain all day - several inches expected. But I know....nothing compared to what you folks down there had to endure.
     
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    It wasn't bad by us at all, Mon. I made Hurricanes (the drink) and we played cards till 2 in the morn ... it was a great party. Had some awesome BBQ ribs too. mmmm ... can't wait for those leftovers.

    The fortune-tellers and navel-gazers (meterologists! :p ) were predicting a fairly hard hit on Shreveport, but fortunately, they were mistaken. We had 50 mph winds all one night and a fair amt of rain. Kept me up, but that was the only damage ... I'm about 4 hrs north of the gulf. So, the storm has to be pretty serious for us to get anything dangerous.

    Pete, of course, is MUCH closer to the water (like a stone's throw). The news reports are that many are and will be without power for weeks longer. The governor says that's unacceptable, but I don't what he thinks he's gonna do about it!??!
     
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    Ya'll know how to party down there! Call me when the next natural disaster heads your way; I'll be right over.

    And why wait to eat the leftovers? Have them for breakfast - that's what I do. Love cold pizza or spaghetti with my orange juice. Wakes up the mouth. Ribs would work too, plus give your tongue some exercise from all that finger licking. :lol:
     
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    :roll: :roll: like my tongue needs MORE exercising!!! :shock:
     
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    Hey!

    Four days in the super-humid heat without benefit of fans. Need I say more?

    I'm glad I boarded up so completely, because something large and heavy (ironically, a boarded-up window and its frame :lol: ) hit my bedroom window with enough force to crack both layers of plywood. My piano's in that room so I feel lucky! A tree "fell" (more like "slowly tipped over and gently came to rest on") my house. Besides that, I and everything I own are just fine. (My neighbor lost his giant attic window which nearly gored my piano room.)

    The storm tracked just north of my town, hence I never saw the SE wind (the strongest) instead, the wind was from the NW (a land breeze). Areas just to my north and east had much higher wind. The peak wind gust here was a "mere" 105mph; a bit to the east, 125mph, quite a difference. A 100mph wind is just at that threshold of where things started getting ripped apart, there was a lot of crashing noise on the street and a few moments where the air was darkened with debris.

    The storm was also extremely brief as hurricanes go. From beginning to end the whole event transpired in perhaps 3 hours. The highest sustained wind was less than 80mph and the highest gust was short of 110mph. (I estimate from the type of wind damage we saw, classic cat1/2 stuff. Trees down, a few windows blown out, major damage to the power grid, mobile homes de-roofed, a couple stronger houses' roofs went missing. That mobile home I mentioned in an earlier post was indeed blown over.

    It could have been much worse!

    Now...how the HELL am I going to get all those screws out?!? :lol:

    Thank God for sleeping pills. :lol:
     
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    Don't tell me you used these one-way safety screws !???

    Good to hear you came away relatively unscathed. It must be scary but I guess people over there get a bit stoic about it and don't worry too much once they are well prepared.
     
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    I wish I'd had some after Katrina. There was one night in particular where it was impossible to sleep, cause there wasn't even the slightest stir of a breeze (this was the night after the storm). After that, it was still disgusting, but never quite as bad as that night with no breeze.

    Welcome back. ;)
     
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    Stoic is a good word for it. We don't panic, most of us are prepared enough, but an alarmingly large number of coastal dwellers are way to complacent. They are always the ones to die first.

    And NO, I may have less carpentering ability in my whole body than most have in their morning coffee, but I did not use safety screws!
    :lol:
     

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