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Haydn: Sonata D-major,Hob.XVI:37, Allegro con brio!

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  1. musicusblau

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    This is one of my favourite sonata of Joseph Haydn. It´s the sonata in d-major, Hoboken XVI:37, 1st movement, Allegro con brio. Haydn always is full of temperament and craft. This movement seems to be one of his real "energy drinks". :wink:

    However, I´m very interested in your opinion.

    Haydn - Sonata in D major, Hob. XVI Nr. 37
     
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    Very well played. Maybe it could be still be a bit spikier, the staccato's more pronounced. Some of the unisono passagework is not ideally together (but I know how hard that is). At the start of the theme, and similar places later one, the appoggiatura seems louder than the main note, is that intentional ? In bar 27, if I counted right, in LH you play F sharp with I think should be F double-sharp, at least that would sound better. The CD sheet music score has the double cross in parentheses so maybe you have a choice here. I think it sounds weird without it. Same situation in the similar bar in the 2nd half.

    Same score has trillos in the 5th and 4th bars before the end of each half, you don't play them, does yout score hot have these ?

    Apart from this, no comments. It's really good but could be more bouncy still.

    BTW You should always give the number of the Sonata, not just Hob. XVI (they're all called that). I had a bit of trouble finding this one.
     
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    Thanks you for your comment, Chris! :D

    Techneut wrote:
    Yes,may be, but it´s a question of taste, I think.

    Hm, well, may be, but I think, it´s not too disturbing, isn´t it?

    Yes, I did it with intention, to give the music a bit more "bite". :wink:

    I have the Henle-edition (like usual :lol: ) and guess what: there is only a f sharp, not a f double sharp. But I think, you are right, it would sound better (with more bite :wink: ), if it is played with a f double sharp and a b sharp in the following figure.

    This is again this "damned" Henle-edition :lol: , no trillos can be found here.

    Thanks, but I don´t understand the word "bouncy", do you mean it in the sense of "with more power" or "jumping around"? (I looked in my dictionary and found nearly these two translations of this word. Sorry for my bad English. :oops: )

    But I gave you the number, I think ("37"), is there any other number?
     
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    Yes, I see the number 37 in your post and even in the title of your topic. Maybe Chris saw only the file name. Let's try to give the full informations also in the file name for the convenience of our admins :wink:

    From my experience I think that esp. concerning the Haydn sonatas there are a lot of difference between the Henle and the others. And I trust the Henle again, because it is the "Urtext".

    I like this sonata and your performance very much! Really like "energy drink" :D
    Will you record the other movements, too?
     
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    My fault about the number. I was only looking at the titlebar of the attachment. Admins should look properly as well :roll:

    Yes, bouncy in the sense of playful, 'jumping around'. A matter of taste, of course.
     
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    I'm in the second listening and I found that about two times the sound of your recording comes from fully the right (or left) speaker and again from the both sides (It's really bad english, sorry). How did you make the recording? Or located the mics?
     
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    Techneut wrote:
    Thanks for the answer, Chris. Yes, why not, it´s a good inspiration. :D

    Doesn´t matter with the number. :wink: I gave it in the theme-line of the topic and in the text of my post, but next time I will give it also a third time in the file-name. :)
     
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    Hyenal wrote:
    That can´t be! :shock: With my speakers it worked very well (but these are especially good ones of Myro :lol: ). Now seriously, I made the record with my Neumann KM 184-pair in a XY-position, nearly two meters in front of my grand-piano. I connected each mic with my mixing-console and this one with my audiophile 192-soundcard on my computer. So the sound should be on both speakers always nearly the same.
     
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    Hyenal wrote:
    Thank you, Hyenal! :D Well, if the other movements are requested on this site, it means always a motivation for me. In the next weeks I will not have too much time, because the work at school increases, but I will see what I can do. (I´m also working on prelude and fugue d sharp-minor of WTCI now, because I will not loose my aim, to complete WTCI one nice day.
     
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    Yes sir, a 3-piece black pinstripe super 150's wool suit with black bicycle toe oxfords will get you along your way to be a properly looking admin! :wink:
     
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    >However, I´m very interested in your opinion.

    I didn't know this Sonata (I'm so ignorant alos about Haydn).
    Very pleasurable to hear. As you tell, very "energetic". The two things I liked more
    were the sound, clear and lighthy, and the rythm, pulsating and soft at the same time.
    Very good, congratulations,
    Sandro
     
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    Thank you, Sandro! :D :D :D
     
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    :lol:
    I always dress up like that. Nothing is good enough for PS :wink:

    But actually, you being an English major, you will know that I would have written 'proper' if I meant that.
     
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    This is up, Andreas. Sounded well-played to me.

    Seeing Haydn's name reminded be of something I once heard about him. When he was young - maybe in late teens - for a joke, he cut off another boys ponytail. Because of it, he was kicked out of the choir or fired from his job, something like that.
     
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    Very good - just listening to it made me feel younger.
     
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    Thank you, Monica. :D

    Yes, he really must have been a "wild" boy, but later he was a familiar friend of Mozart, he was the older one and something like a father for Mozart. I like him and his music very much.
     
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    Thank you very much, Troglodyte. Nice compliment for my playing. :D
     
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    I love this sonata of Haydn ... fun and bouncy. My kids call it the puppy-dog song cause when I play that first motif I'd yip/bark like a dog with the trills.

    Good job. I have the peters edition and it's missing that accidental too. But my schirmer edition has it and it sounds ever so much better.

    We really should work a little harder on recording all these Haydn sonatas ... There're a lot of real gems in those 52 pieces. I'm gonna take my Haydn books off the shelf and put them on the bottom of my stack!
     
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    Nathanscoleman wrote:
    That´s a good idea. I love the Haydn-sonatas and played some of them, but on the other hand I would like to complete WTCI and I´m also still working on Chopin, Ballad Nr. 2, to improof the faster passages. But I also like not to work only on Bach or only on Chopin, but have some changes between. I also think of the completition of Mendelssohns "Songs Without Words", so I have to make priorities, isn´t it?
     
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    *sigh* priorities, shmiorities! :lol: Well, I did say I was putting it on the bottom of the stack! hehe
     

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