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Debussy Le Petite Negre

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    I think I have managed to get a pretty good audio this time. I did a little editing in audacity. If it has too much ringing from the editing let me know. I can fix it and submit again.
     

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    Hello Fluterific,
    I found your Petit Nègre rather decent. My only point deals with the tempo, which should be more stable in the first and third parts (while, of course, the center is more interrogative and meditative). I suggest to practice with the metronome... Best wishes,
     
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    Thank you for the kind words. I can tend to rush a bit. I tend to rush when I do expressions. I'll work on the tempo. Thanks.
     
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    Your piano sounds better than in your earlier recordings. But the sound quality here is still not quite there. I hear a buzzing sound almost all the way through...like the input the level was too high and the sound was clipping. Not sure if an editing program can fix that or not.....
     
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    Hi Fluterific,
    the recording has some nice moments, but I agree to Francois, that it rhythmically is too unexact at some places, f.ex. in bar 14, 15 or the penultimate bar, which motifs also come earlier. You should practise that first with metronome, so that you have a clear imagination how the rhythm is intended by the composer. I agree also to Monicas comment about the sound-quality and I have to add, that your piano is terribly out of tune(, so that it sounds a bit like an old bar piano, which fits to ragtimes like that on the other hand ;).
     
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    Instead of it being out of tune, I rather think it's the voicing. I just had the piano tuned not too long ago, but it is an old piano.
     
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    Ok. I tried getting the input just right, but maybe it wasn't quite there yet. The recorder is also sitting on the piano. Could this be causing the problem? I also have things on the piano which could be causing the piano to buzz.
     
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    I think it would give a nice fire for farewell. ;) Seriously, if a piano sounds so distuned shortly after having been tuned, probably the best is to look for a newer one. ( Even to use a digital would be much better than continue with this one. And I'm saying that while totally disliking digital pianos.)
     
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    Actually, this is the newer instrument, to me. :) I think I figured out the problem. At the time of this recording, the ground was very dry and it's been a very dry winter with unfortunately for me, barely any snow. So we have been pretty dry. About a couple of weeks or so it rained. I check the piano with a tuning device after you said that and it was out. I checked it again today and it's quite a bit better. I don't have a dehumidifier for my instrument, so that may be partly some of the tuning issues. It's a Grand, but old. I have an upright downstairs. I've been playing some on it today to test the sound quality. Also I think if I get my brother to adjust the mic position, that may help the quality of the recording even more. Thanks for the advice. I'm not in a position currently to be able to buy the piano of my dreams yet. :)
     
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    Oh, and I have never heard the word penultimate before either. Can you explain a bit about that so that I understand what you mean?
     
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    I can´t see to have used this word, sorry. Could you tell me, where respective in which context I have used it?
     
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    Penultimate = last but one.

    The piano does sound a bit honkytonk. The pitch doesn't sound particularly off though, just a peculiar timbre. Btw if you are using Audacity and there is clipping in the track, it is possible (at least in recent versions) to fix marginal clipping. There is a clip fix tool which recreates the sine wave (extrapolating it from the shape preceding and following the clip). You will then end up with a new sine wave which has peak volume >1.0. After that, select the whole track and apply the appropriate negative amplification throughout. Problem solved - it's really quite a decent fix unless the clipping is severe, in which case it will only reduce the problem, not fix it.
     
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    I know the meaning of "penultimate" (german=vorletzter), but I don´t get what you mean, sorry.
     
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    I certainly wouldn't know what it was in German ;) "penultimate" is used in post #5. (I was replying to fluterific's question in post #10.)
     
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    Ah, I see now. Thanks, Andrew. I just meant, that in the penultimate bar, there were some rhythmical uncorrectness.
     
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