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Brahms: Op. 79

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  1. John Robson

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    Hello John!

    I just listened to the second Rhapsodie. I'm not quite sure if you would like to hear any comments, so I would only like to express my respect for your ability to present this piece the way you did. I enjoyed very much listening to it. Thank you for sharing.

    Please allow me just one technical comment: there were some cracks (crackles? Sorry, I'm not sure if this is the right word), the last one for example in bar 114. This could be just a little technical problem when cutting / copying or pasting parts of the recording together which could be easily fixed if you would check the settings for your crossfades.

    With best wishes

    Jan
     
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    I hear this recording and can say that your right hand is probably 100%. Very good recordings. I cannot comment on mistakes and other mechanical issues, because I am not a Brahms expert.
     
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    Hi John,

    These pieces are very well played. In the Rhapsody No. 2 in Gm you achieve a nice full tone in your playing and express warmth of feeling too. You create wonderful dramatic tension through your many dynamic contrasts. And you bring out those Brahmsian fervent, impetuous flashes of sound and flights of fancy nicely. Good job!

    I've played and recorded the Rhapsodies, Op. 79, No. 2 and Op. 119, No. 4 in E flat. But I've never played Op. 79, No. 1. I think the main reason is that I just don't like the fragmentary melody. It's just never grown on me through the years. I did enjoy listening to your rendition though. In addition to the two rhapsodies, I also play most of the Intermezzi. So it goes to show, if one doesn't care for a particular piece, no matter, as Brahms has given us plenty of pieces for everyone in these Short Works. :)

    Fine playing, John!

    David
     
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    I'd go along with the juufster here, and venture that your RH has recovered nicely. In any case case no weakness can't be heard - and this this is a (like all Brahms) a pretty taxing program for the RH. Well, for both hands really ! I like your rendition of the second Rhapsody better than that of the first. You find more contrast and poetry in the second than in the first, which sounds a bit hard-driven. Overall, you could still take it a bit easier. You are not one to dawdle, and I appreciate that (being of a similar disposition) but a bit more rubato, repose and expansiveness could come in handy here.
    But this is not meant as criticism - these are good and solid performances. Good to see you back on fine form :!:
     
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    Brahms

    Thanks for listening and the comments. It hurt my ears to listen to these after I recorded them. There are so many things I'd like to change. I recorded them several times, but there were always numerous things that almost drove me insane as I would hear them. "Why didn't I phrase that better? This damn piano (or the player) is playing those low notes too loudly! No. 1 should be a bit faster and more "agitated." It's quite frustrating. I agree completely with you, Chris, about the
    "hard-driven" sound. It's not because I haven't known those pieces long enough. I actually played both of them in a recital when I was in high school. I still have the G minor one completely memorized, although I had to have the score in front of me to record or I would forget something. I don't know why that Edirol makes me nervous. :roll: I also am reminded that my old hands are not as supple as they used to be. It's a tad depressing.......
     
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    Re: Brahms

    I don't think the problem is with the 'old hands' - they seem adequate enough to me. It's between the ears, you need to relax and enjoy more. Not walloiw, but look around a little bit more.
    Anyway these don't hurt the ears in any way, and they are up the site.
     
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    [I don't know why that Edirol makes me nervous.]

    I hear you. If fully prepared, I'd feel more comfortable playing of an audience of a thousand than sitting in front of those two microphones in my living room!

    David[/quote]
     
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    Whoa, a triple posting :lol:

    John, these are up the site.
     
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    It's not David's fault. The same has just happened to me. When you submit a message, it throws an error, then the message is submitted in 3 copies. Ah, bureaucracy.
    Anyway, I didn't take note of it but it was about the authentication.

    PS: I was kidding, there are 3 instances of the message because David and I probably tried and retried to submit it.

    Edit: OK, since it keeps on giving that error, I've grabbed a screen image of it.
     
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    I like best the second rhapsody. In the first one I feel you are too much cautious in the fast sections, while the quieter ones are very beautiful and intimately played.
     
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    Hi Chris,

    I at least erased two of those redundant messages, but as alf points out, there is an error message at play. Little did I know that the messages were being posted anyway. If you have a way of deleting them, that would be good.

    David
     
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    Hi alf,

    Thanks for explaining the posting issue to Chris on my behalf before I returned. Otherwise, he might have thought that I had too many glasses of merlot!

    David
     
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    I had the same problem just now. Weird....

    Anyway, John, Wow - powerful playing. I liked the second one best - it somehow reminds me of Chopin's no. 3 Scherzo. Well done!
     
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    Hehehe... I had seen this error too... but I was too full of Lambrusco to make the connection with the triple posting :lol:
     
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    Actually, the error just occurred again after sending this post :x
     
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    You can delete the duplicated messages by yourself, by clicking on the "x" beside the "edit" button.
     
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    Hi alf,

    When I click on the X on the Edit button, it takes me to the edit function, but I cannot find any further delete function there; nor when I exit, having simply clicked on the X, has it made the duplicate post disappear. So it doesn't appear to work for me, unless there is a step I'm missing.

    David
     

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