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Bach: preludes BWV 866, 867, 868

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  1. musicusblau

    musicusblau Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    I have done some things, I would like to have done, before completing my WTCI-cycle.
    I have made new interpretation of prelude in b-flat-minor, WTCI, BWV 867. I tried a faster tempo and played completely without pedal. The interpretation of the fugue I haven´t changed.
    You can listen an watch to my new interpretation of the prelude in b-flat-minor on my youtube-page, if you like:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOpoBqkR ... annel_page

    I have re-recorded the preludes in b-flat-major and b-major of WTCI (BWV 868, 869), because of the wrong notes in it, which were really disturbing.
    Please, Monica, could you be so kind and replace these two files. I have put prelude and fugue together as usual. The versions of the fugues are the old ones.

    Bach - Prelude and Fugue in B-flat major, BWV 866

    Bach - Prelude and Fugue in B major, BWV 868
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Ok, Andreas - I have replaced these.
     
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    As we say in English: wunderbar! :lol:
     
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    As we say in German: Wow![​IMG] Thank you for your encouraging words!
     
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    Thank you![​IMG]
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Very pretty flowers. I'm glad we showed you how to do these smileys.

    oops, I went [​IMG]



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    Pianolady wrote:
    I´m glad, we are by this OOT-theme (don´t fear, I do it only this one time :wink: ): What is that: it is red and goes up and down?
    [​IMG] :?:
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Is this a trick or a riddle?
    Hmmmmm....don't know, Andreas. Can I have a hint?
     
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    It´s a riddle. You have to think of food and technique.[​IMG]
     
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    hmmmm....

    food and technique , something red that goes up and down...

    1. Is it your tongue? Do you play piano with your tongue too?

    2. You had on a red sweater in your last video. Is that you jumping up and down?

    3. Do you eat red jelly beans while you play piano?

    No, wait - I know - 4. Do you toss red jelly beans up in the air and catching them in your mouth while practicing piano, thus enhancing your technique?
    :lol:
     
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    Pianolady wrote:
    [​IMG]

    Very good, Monica, now here comes the solution, which can reach your ones above not in the least:
    It´s a tomato in an elevator.
     
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    Oh, Andreas - that's pretty bad! [​IMG]

    :lol:
     
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    Andreas, I am stunned by the quality of your audio recording!
    You seem to have found balance and style. Your stereo image is finally right, the ambience is right, the presence is right, what else?
    Pity you didn't do the fugues also. The difference between them and the new preludes is like night and day.
    Don't change things from now on, Andreas, just details. I'm really glad you got it to this level.

    A small detail that comes to immediate notice is your reverb tail. You can decrease it a bit. Your sound is great by itself, no need to add more to it. Perhaps, 0.5 secs or so less on the tail?

    I hope you don't mind my comments. I am only trying to help as I have seen that you keep pushing beyond the amateur's regular audio requirements and these last preludes are really a quantum leap ahead.
     
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    Wiser-guy wrote:
    Thank you for this kind and encouraging feedback, Pantelis! :D :D :D
    I truely have to thank you, because you inspired me with your tips and you gave me very valuable advices. F.ex. I tried out the "compressor, limiter, gate"-function and so you feel like you are very close to the piano. A very intimate sound, isn´t it? I used my new equalizer-function, it´s a 10-point-equalizer. You can adjust the frequencies very acutely with it. I choosed the A-B-position. The mikes are nearly with two meter distance from each other, 1 m from the grand with wide open lid, the mikes show on the lid, not on the chordes, they are in heigth of nearly 1, 70m. I do a bit dynamic-normalization sometimes, so that with a volume-degree of 35 (on my stereo-advice) it sounds well to me.

    O.k., I think, I´ll re-record also the fugues, but I fear our site-admins will kill me, if I want to replace the old files again and to have them on the site. So, I think I will re-record only for my youtube-page. But first I would like to complete the WTCI-cycle now. I "just" have to do the last prelude and fugue in b-minor.

    I´m really glad, you say this.

    O.k., I will try it. I thank you very much for this advice.

    I´m very glad about your help, because you seem to have much more knowledge concerning these matters of recording like me. I feel your advices to be very valuable and I thank you from heart!

    Do you like my last version of prelude in b-flat-minor more than my previous one? I have choosed a faster tempo and I play it completely without pedal.
     
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    Although I'm not an expert on Bach, I can tell that these are played very well. Bravo!
     
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    Where did you guys find those "thangs"? I don't see them anywhere. All I can find are the little faces. Nothing happens when I click on "View more Emoticons". :?
     
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    Re: Bach: preludes BWV 867, 868, 869

    Nicely played musicusblau,

    If I am not mistaken the tempo of the b major prelude sounds less hectic this time? More appropriate and dance like maybe? In fact your tempo/timing seemed excellent this time. I don't remember anymore what the original sounded like. Either way, you seemed to have captured the spirit I think.

    I enjoyed your performance.

    So when do you plan on doing the b minor!



     
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    Andreas, when I read 'BWV 869' in the thread's title I thought, here he is, the WTC I set is complete now. But I see that we'll need to wait a bit longer.

    I watched your new rendition of the Prelude in B flat minor and, if you ask me, I found the previous version more daring and, in spite of the insidiously slow tempo, more interesting - in the end, preferable. But mine is a just listener's opinion and you may have a thousand reasons to rather prefer the new one. Then I listened also to the B flat major set and, since you are obviously putting a lot of efforts into this project, I take it upon myself to point out even the slightest flaws. Sorry for that, I feel guilty at being so overzealous, especially because yours are unmistakably excellent recordings. So, getting right to the point: in the fugue, at the beginning of bar 24, you edited out a tail of the first quaver, leaving a limping beat. I hope I did not bother you too much with that.

    And now, looking forward to hearing the B minor set.
     
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    Re: Thangs

    It would be possible to import more emoticons for use in the forum. But it's work, as we'd need to define mnemonics for them as well. We never bothered with this, considering the current set adequate. Anybody wanting to express their emotions in gaudier ways, using the newest and splashiest icons, will find a way to do so, as we've seen. Personally I don't think all these blinking, winking, jumping and waving thingamagigs do a serious forum any favours, however funny they are.

    It should bring up the rarely used 'Mr.Green' :mrgreen: as the only other available emoticon.
     
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    Re: Thangs

    John Robson wrote:
    Thank you for your interest and your kind comment. :D

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