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  1. arensky

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    child's play....

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    If you are at a Conservatori You need to practice 6 houres a day (they told me that there) but if you don't play for a day every week I don't think they will accep that do they?
     
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    Well I dont know if this will lead to injury (but it might)....my hands at this time of the year are cold, but the rest of me is warm. This leads my hands to become stiff.

    Is there a doctor in the house? Or anyone else who shares the same problem? (especially those who live in the northern part of the world...not you Floridians or Arizonians who complain when the tempurature is at 60degrees :evil: )
     
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    Hey! It's snowing right now! True, the sun is out :shock: and it will warm up this afternoon to about 54 fahrenheit (about 26 celcius I think) and the low tonight is forecast 28 F or about -2 celcius.

    I had a student with this problem here in "sunny arizona" :p and I simply had him rub his hands together or keep them in his pockets. I think someone previously in this thread suggested those thermal sand packets or whatever they are.

    In Japan not so long ago geishas in training were made to practice the Koto after immersing their hands in frozen water for several minutes, so that they would be able to play in any atmospheric circumstance. :shock:

    Try that one....
    :D
     
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    you need to check how you are sitting after your grand. And you need to let check your neck. Maybe there are several werbs turned!)

    I got a back illness so I know quite something about backs
     
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    I dont have a grand piano..my keyboard sits higher than any piano that I ever played on. (When I play on grands, it is usually in front of people and my left knee tends to bounce a little bit and it hits the bottom of the piano with force) but when I sit at my keyboard I need to lift my foot (3/4ths of it) off the ground to hit the bottom of the keyboard. :x I need to find benches that are a little lower than normal because i have a hard time trying to sit on the bench and have enough space under the piano for my legs. Kinda sucks being 6'3.

    I do not know what that has to do with cold hands :roll:

    My blood pressure is good between 102/65 to 130/80 (depending when i measure it and what i have done prior to measuring). My resting heart beat is about 68. So I doubt that poor circulation is behind this.

    -JG
     
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    as I said. Maybe your werbs are sitting wrong. Let also check your hips!

    gr,

    robert
     
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    :?: werbs :?:
     
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    Yes, what is a werb?

    Juufa, have you tried drinking a cup of hot coffee or tea before you play. I get cold hands sometimes too. Or you could try a glass of wine. That usually works for me too, but doesn't do much for my playing. :)
     
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    sorry wrong word.

    vertebra

    that's the word I was looking for :roll: My English is very poor Sorry
     
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    For the love of God, don't ice your hands before you play! That's probably the quickest route to a torn tendon. Over time, hot water can cause neuropathy.

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    Coffee = yuck! I hate coffee. Does wonders for your heart and blood pressure and teeth and breath. Oh man that stuff is horrible.

    Tea = I like tea. however, (truthfully) after I down a large cup of that stuff it goes right through me and within 15 minutes the tank needs to be drained :wink: :roll: ...doesn't make for a productive time at the "ivories".

    Wine = 20 years old. :x I really do not drink any kind of alcohol. I dont have the taste for it.

    I prefer milk. MOOOOO!!!!


    Secondly, I think I have good posture. I dont slouch too much when playing (need to sight read tiny black dots calls for me to lean over a bit). But again I do not see why posture has to do with cold hands in the months of september through march. (spring and summer my hands are sweaty hot, but in fall and winter they are cool to the touch)

    -the juuf
     
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    Then try warm (almost hot) milk. And don't say "Yuck" unless you've tried it. It's not bad. On second thought, maybe it's not a good idea because warm milk makes you sleepy. I drink it when I have trouble getting to sleep. Try hot cocoa, instead. Holding the hot cup warms your hands, plus it tastes yummy and gives you a little sugar kick to perk you up.
     
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    So basically what you do is hold something warm in your hands? I see. I like warm milk with a bit of honey. I have tried coffee before and I drank it regularly, then I had a whiff of my own breath and man did it smell like coffee.
     
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    after you warmed up are they after a vieuw minutes cold again?

    you should turn your head to the left and right. turn it that far that you can't go any further. If you are over your shoulder your neck should be fine if not you could have a problem with your back of muscles
     
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    No, after I warmed my hands with warm water or a hot cup, they remain warm until i stop using them. Then I'd say about 30 minutes after I stopped playing they begin to cool off.

    I suffered from daily headaches so after various doctors I was sent to a Physical therapist. She measured my neck's rotation and flexability. She said that something was "not right"...I asked, "what do you mean 'not right'?" She responded that she has never seen a person with a neck that flexible, that I was able to turn my neck, raise and lower my head, far past the average degrees of motion :? . I said, "well that's not bad" She responded,"if it is not normal ,than something is wrong, so it is not too good that you have hypermobility"

    ...rats! I wish I had that type of flexation with my hands and fingers!


    -JG

    p.s. call me stupid. because I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing and I sliced off a good junk of meat on my right hand ring finger. Guess I wont be playing for a while. :roll:
     
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    cracky.....
    Jufa, before we going too far..whats the outside temperature??? is it icy or like in sydney 25-30C. very nice.

    If its cold like around 10-14 degrees...I recommended you to TURN your heater on. This is what I do.

    If not too icy, allways remeber to have at least 3/4 stomach full,1 to 1.5 hours before practising, that will keep your meta...running and warm thru out your body.


    Sometimes, its better have a warm shower first and it relaes all your muscles and tension around your head. Again, never practice when you are hungry...


    I tried with wine before, as a results when I play op53 polonaise, I made more mistakes.....

    I hop this helps
     
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    I see that you and Steve Irwin share the same vocabulary :wink: Crickey! :wink: :wink:

    As of now it is about 1degree Celcius outside. During the days it is around 10degrees Celcius. In my house it is about 25degrees C. (63 degrees Fahrenheit)
     
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    why not :shock:
     

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