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Arrangement of Tchaikovsky, Souvenir d'un lieu cher, Melodie

Discussion in 'Repertoire' started by hreichgott, May 26, 2014.

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    Thank you, Heather, it's very nice of you to share this!
     
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    Heather,
    Good job! I printed it and played through it a couple of times. I like the way the turns are notated - it leaves little doubt about how to play them. (Good for a non-academic like me.)

    Question about the tied notes in measures 45 and 46: are these completely accurate? Seems to me that the bottom notes would be tied, too, to give the effect of a single-note melody. (The idiom is so prevalent in piano music that I automatically did it this way.)

    Too bad we don't have a dedicated spot for things like this. Perhaps a cross-posting in "resources" would help.
     
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    Hi Stu,
    There are two melodies going on there. The violin melody is the 16th notes on the first beat, then a half note. The piano melody is the top voice of the eighth-note chords. If I were more skilled with notation, I'd have written it clearly in two voices, half note with stem going one way, and eighth notes with stems going the other way. I know some ways to do multiple voices in Lilypond, but everything I came up with resulted in colliding stems. So I wrote tied eighths instead of a half note. You're right, it is a bit confusing...
    Heather
     
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    Thanks, Heather. I'll try playing it that way.
    I've paid no attention to notation software and have no clear idea of what's involved.

    By coincidence, I went to church with my wife this AM and sat right behind the piano. I liked the offertory piece and asked him what it was and it turned out he had just written it and was willing to talk about the software. So I got exposed to it twice in one week.
    He actually gave me the hard copy he had, since he can print out another, and corrected a couple of mistakes in pencil. What an age we live in!
     
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    That looks nicely written out, with plenty attention to detail like phrasing marks etc.

    Just wondering: what is your view on writing out pedal markings? I've written out several scores - in fact I've just finished one! - and can never decide whether to go through punctiliously indicating them all, or whether to take default, or implicit, positions (for music of this era/genre) such as that the performer understands to pedal by the harmony.
     
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    I think it only makes sense to write in counter-intuitive pedal markings, unless the arrangement is for students first learning pedal.
     
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    Cool!! I love being able to have access to new music so quickly :)
     
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    Let me add my thanks too, Heather. Just what I need for church.

    The B-natural in bar 50 is presumably a mistake.

    The tied 8ths in the left hand in bars 60 and 62, for what are really off-beat 4ths, look a bit odd, and I wondered why they aren't notated similarly to bars 50-52, for example. But then I saw you were just being true to the original where they are also -strangely- written like that.

    Is there a reason why you end the piece on bare octaves, where the original has a chord?
     
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    Thanks Rainer for helping me proofread.
    The B natural you mention is a mistake and I will correct it.
    The tied notes are indeed odd and it seems to make sense to alter them to quarter notes.
    The ending was a choice of mine -- the last RH note comes from that long pp arpeggio and I felt it sounded better continuing to emulate the violin line, ending on a quiet single note with just a pizz.-like bass note underneath (which I pedal briefly). I can also see why someone might prefer a chord there.
     
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    A corrected version has been uploaded to imslp.
     

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