DONATION STATUS
Needed before 2016-12-31
$ 2,500
So far donated
$ 860

Anton Rubinstein

Discussion in 'Repertoire' started by chopinman0901, Apr 28, 2007.

?

Is Anton Rubinstein's music worth listening to?

  1. Absolutely! It's beautiful!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. No, it just isn't that great.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. chopinman0901

    chopinman0901 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2006
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    I just can't believe that he's been forgotten!! I only started listeining to his works recently (not that many people record them), but I really like them. And he wrote so many too! Just look on piano.ru and you'll find so much of his music (sheet music)!!

    The reasons that I've seen as to why his music isn't popular include that his music isn't distinguished enough from his Russian comtemporaries. Even if that was completely true (it isn't), that doesn't mean that his music isn't beautiful. I mean, even the relatively well known Melody in F is really a pretty piece of music (usually well known pieces like Fur Elise aren't pretty). I find his music to be a blend of Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, and Chopin, but with some of his own flavor too.

    So does anyone besides me like Anton Rubinstein's works? What does everyone think of them?
     
  2. juufa72

    juufa72 New Member Piano Society Artist

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,388
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Obamanation, unfortunately...
    Last Name:
    Grocholski
    First Name:
    Julius
    You're right! No one did reply, even me! I must have overlooked this.

    A little OT but still interesting: Look at the similarities between del Toro and Rubinstein....long long lost twins? :wink:

    del Toro
    http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/b/benicio_del_toro/thumbnails/tn2_benicio_del_toro_4.jpg

    Rubinstein
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/VanIIRubinstein.jpg



    out of all his music I like his piano concerti. They are not like anything of his time, but not necessarily out-classing composers of his time. Simply they are Rubinesque. :!:
     
  3. Terez

    Terez New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2007
    Messages:
    1,418
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Gulfport, MS, USA
    You should have put another option:

    "I've never even heard any of his music."

    Sad, I know...
     
  4. chopinman0901

    chopinman0901 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2006
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    Haven't you even heard the famous Melody in F Major? I don't think that I can change polls after I make them either.

    I also really like his piano concerti, they are so beautiful. Out of all the composers, they sound the most like Rachmaninoff to me. I also have recordings of his barcarolles and some of his etudes for piano. They are very nice to listen to, while not that memorable, and are very pretty.

    A reason why many people can't get into him is because there's nowhere to find his music. I've looked everywhere online, and I can barely find any music books of his for people to buy (besides the concerti). There's like one edition of his barcarolles and about two books with six or so random pieces. I don't even know if Schirmer, Alfred, or Dover make anything of his! I find this strange because, if you look on IMSLP, you can see that he has many works, especially piano pieces. But I hate having millions of sheets of paper lying around my piano room :( .
     
  5. juufa72

    juufa72 New Member Piano Society Artist

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,388
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Obamanation, unfortunately...
    Last Name:
    Grocholski
    First Name:
    Julius
    So then why don't you record one piece at a time. Maybe within three years you could have most of his works recorded and on this site? (Minues the concerti and some insanely difficult pieces) :wink:
     
  6. pianolady

    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2006
    Messages:
    8,716
    Likes Received:
    1
    Last Name:
    Hart
    First Name:
    Monica
    Chopinman - I love to hear when someone is passionate about a certain composer, and because of you I went to my piano and looked through this big book of romantic music that I have sitting there. I found only this one little Polka (very short piece). Forgive the recording, as I didn't practice it beforehand and it's probably the wrong tempo, style, and all that, but in case you don't know this one, here it is. Also, I think I remember seeing somewhere a piece of his that is very pretty and almost 'smultzy', but I can't remember which book it's in.
     
  7. chopinman0901

    chopinman0901 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2006
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    I don't have any technology to record stuff. Unless you'd want an ugly MIDI file from my Clavinova.

    Anybody willing to record some of his works? As I previously mentioned, imslp.org has much of his music, and I forgot to say that so does piano.ru/library-e.
     
  8. chopinman0901

    chopinman0901 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2006
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    Pianolady: I'm so sorry, for some reason I just noticed your recording. I think it sounds great! Was that sight read? If so, nice job! Sounds very Russian and Rubinsteinian(?), and I've never heard the piece before. Thank you!
     
  9. arensky

    arensky New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2006
    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Musician
    Location:
    Arizona
    Home Page:
    Sorry, I voted "no it just isn't that great". :oops: Earlier this year I played his Cello Sonata Op.18. What a lot of work for very little musical reward; after Ruby states his themes, he just juggles them aimlessly and fills in the void with great expaneses of busy but very difficult :shock: passagework. The first and last movements had some interesting and charming moments but that middle movement was just dreadful; what a sacharine syrupy victorian gob o' goo. I ended up treating the piece as an etude, and it did help me regain a great deal of facility after some rough times.

    Since this was a joint recital of Russian music, I read through and listened to a great deal of his solo piano music, but it all came up wanting; I almost programmed #22 from "Kameniy-ostrov" but instead opted for Medtner, Scriabin and Rachmaninov for my solo selections. Their music is vastly superior to Rubinstein's; as President Carter wrote, "Why Not the Best?" :D

    If I want to hear Rubinstein, I'll listen to Josef Hoffman's live recording of the d minor Concerto. It is an astonishing performance. 8)

    Gee I just read this and it's awfully negative, but it's my well considered opinion.

    Perhaps I'll post some of the Rubinstein Sonata...
     
  10. chopinman0901

    chopinman0901 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2006
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    I definitely think that his music is not of the caliber of other Russians like Rachmaninoff and Tchaikovsky. However, I still think most of it is nice to hear. If you could post up a recording of the sonata, that would be great! I've never heard it before.
     
  11. pianolady

    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2006
    Messages:
    8,716
    Likes Received:
    1
    Last Name:
    Hart
    First Name:
    Monica
    Chopinman0901 - or anybody else - I was just flipping through another book, randomly playing a few pieces and came across another Rubinstein piece. It's titled, "Romance", which got my attention right away because I usually like that kind of piece. Do you know anything about it? My thoughts when i was playing it were that I should have a lighted and really big candleabra on the piano, and lacey handkerchiefs to gently dab away the tears (hard to do while playing, though :lol: ). And I'm not sure about this, but maybe that candleabra idea came to me because Liberace played this (and added a zillion arpeggios). It's a pretty piece, if a little on the smultzy-side.
     
  12. chopinman0901

    chopinman0901 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2006
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    Was it in E-flat Major? If so, then I have heard it before. It's probably one of Rubinstein's more famous pieces (which is still not famous at all :eek: ). It's really pretty, and definitely a Romance.

    I like the candelabra idea! Maybe I should try it some time...
     
  13. pianolady

    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2006
    Messages:
    8,716
    Likes Received:
    1
    Last Name:
    Hart
    First Name:
    Monica
    Yes, it is the one in e-flat major. Just played it again. Fun to get into those big melodramatic ff sections. I think I'll record it this week.
     

Share This Page