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Albéniz, Alkan, and Scriabin

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  1. pianolady

    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Hi Tristan,

    Yes, it certainly has been awhile. I'm glad to see you again.

    And thanks for listening and for the input. I am open to any and all suggestions. I can see where you say that these kind of pieces should be ethereal with lots of rubato. And more pedal - that's interesting, I'll try that.

    I'm collecting opinions on what Scriabin pieces people like most and what I should take a look at. There is a thread in the Repertoire forum regarding this, and I've gotten some great advice from a couple other members. If you have any more ideas, please let me know.
     
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    Rachfan Active Member Piano Society Artist

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    Hi Monica,

    In addition to Wagner and Faure, Scriabin was definitely an influence on Catoire, thus the connection you correctly detected.

    David
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    I didn't know that about Scriabin influencing Wagner. I can hear it with Faure, but I always think of Wagner's music as being sort of 'heavy' opera music. Although, I don't really know much about Wagner's music so maybe I just haven't heard the Scriabin-ish pieces.
     
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    Seems unlikely... Scriabin was only 11 when Wagner died :wink:
     
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    Hi Monica and Chris,

    Allow me to rephrase. The principal influences on Catoire were Wagner, Faure and Scriabin (his early period). Sorry about the misunderstanding.

    David
     
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    techneut Active Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Hehe... your original statement was quite clear. I was just poking fun at Monica's creative (though not necessarily wrong) interpretation of it :p
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    ummm....it was 3:30 in the morning when I read that, so...well....you know... :oops:

    Guess that means that Scriabin did not influence Faure, either. :wink:
     
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    Hi Monica,

    Egad, 3:30 a.m., and I thought I was a night owl! :lol:

    Davud
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Maybe I forgot to tell you. I'm really a vampire! [​IMG]

    :lol:
     
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    ..aren't all women? :lol: :lol:
     
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    I have known that for a while :p
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    I think the time has come for me to suck out all of your blood. Better not go to sleep tonight.... :shock: :wink:
     
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    Dont worry Techneut, you are safe! If it is dark in Holland, then here in the midwest US it will be still daylight and by the time it is dark in the midwest US it will already by light in Holland. So there is no way that the vampire can get you. Unless, that is, they can teleport instantly from one location to the next. Then you're screwed.
     
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    Hi Monica,
    I just listened to the Scriabin and your Alkan recordings. The Scriabin is a wonderful piece, and you deal well (to my ears) with the rhythmic complexities in it. Ah, and these wonderful harmonies he has! Nice playing overall and good range of dynamics! In some places, the melodic phrasing could be shaped even more with tension and subsequent release, and breathing between the phrases. But I don't know the piece so I don't know if that's really appropriate. I really enjoyed it.
    The Alkan is also a nice piece. There are many others of moderate difficulty in the Esquisses and then there are also other collections, like the two sets of Impromptus - I think they have also interesting rhythms in it if the Scriabin made you a fan of them :)

    Btw, I just discovered your Youtube channel. Good stuff!
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Thank you, Tobias.

    I don't really know what is appropriate, either. Or in another way, I am not sure how much rubato, pedaling, etc. is permitted in playing music by composers that I don't know that much about. But I'm getting nice tips and advice, here.


    Oh, I sort of forgot about the Alkan. I'm glad you reminded me, and I'm really glad to hear that there are more pieces of his that I may be able to play.

    Thanks. :D I'll go there right after this and subscribe to your channel too.
     
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    hi, Monica!

    your "First love letter" is very fine!
    you play the very beginning with an intimacy that I never heard and fits the music really well (it's a pitty that "intimacy" is something rarely considered while playing Alkan's music.)

    Sure!
    I never saw the score of Esquisses Op. 63, but sure there are lot of not-so-easy ones there. I can remember the first one being really easy (though I think it's not memorable...)

    here are other numbers you may consider:
    3 Le legatissimo
    5 Les initiés (lovely one!)
    8 Pseudo-naïveté
    11 Les soupirs (this is not so easy, but it's really worthy!)
    12 Barcarollette
    13 Ressourvenir
    19 Grâces
    30 Petit air dolent
    33 Fais dodo
    34 Odi profanum vulgus et arceo
    43 Notturnino innamorato
    48 En songe
    49 Laus Deo
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Hi Felipe,

    Well, it is my first love letter since I was a teeny bopper! Or is it....

    Anyway, thank you very much for this information. I will definitely check out some of these pieces when I am done with the current stack of music sitting on my piano.
     

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