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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    Hi Nicole, Great to see you again!! Thank you so much for that information. Interesting and funny about using too much pedal to cover up bad technique. I really like that!

    @Scott - thanks for the link. It also looks very interesting and I'll start reading more of it maybe tomorrow when I'm at work.

    @Alexander and Scott - Interesting notion about comparing pianos. We know that Chopin's piano was a lot different than our pianos today, but it would be interesting to know how or if our pianos are much different from Debussy's. A nice little research project, I think, if someone wants to look into this subject and let us know...? :idea:
     
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    I went to start looking at the idea of Debussy's piano (probably a Pleyel) when I came across Grovlez.
    from Oscar Thompson's Debussy: Man and Artist, note on page 267: "Grovlez incorportated the Danse de Puck [Preludes Book 1] in his Antre des gnomes, produced in 1920. Regarding the prelude, General Lavine -- eccentric, from Preludes Book 2 note, on pg. 269: "Another of the Debussy Preludes orchestrated by Grovlez for L'Antre des gnomes." Then a note on the same page for the prelude Ondine, "Also transcribed for orchestra by Grovlez."

    Then from an old 3rd edition of Grove's DMM, sv Grovlez: "... obtained the first piano-prize at the Paris Conservatoire (Diemer), ..."

    I could add this to the Wiki article on him but rather hope that Chris use it (if he wants) for the PS bio that is linked to at Wiki.

    Nothing on Debussy's piano. I went looking to see If I had something with a picture of him seated at a piano, which might reveal something, but have no such pictures.
     
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    A friend of mine has a 1908 Steinway and a modern Bösendorfer side by side in their living room. It was a fascinating experience to sit and play the two alternately. And I had the chance to do some concerts on an 1890s Broadwood too. Yes, the basic design principles of the instrument haven't changed. But the touch, tone quality and resonance is still a world apart. It's hard to put these things into words precisely, but I can assure you there's a huge difference--technology has kept moving during the past 100 years.
     
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    pianolady Monica Hart, Administrator Staff Member Piano Society Artist Trusted Member

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    @Eddy - nothing on Debussy's piano? Well, maybe something will turn up later. The Grovlez info - so in addition to being a composer and conductor, he was also an arranger which is why he had done something on Granados' opera too. Interesting!

    @Alexander - that friend of yours must have a very large living room! I bet it really was very interesting comparing the two pianos!!
     
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    That is useful info, thanks ! Yes I'll certainly add that to the bio, or rather the meager scrap of text that goes for a bio.
     

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