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 Post subject: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:34 pm 
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Rodrigo considered his 5 Sonatas de Castilla, prefaced by a Toccata a modo de Pregon, to be his most important work for piano. Though I have not played all of them yet (they're rather difficult, except this one) I tend to agree with him.

This pensive Scarlatti-like piece has an aching beauty which I hope to have brought out. I had to resort to a little more post processing than usual - when playing back I noticed that the start and end were too loud, and the crucial rests were too short. As I was otherwise pleased with the recording I decided to just fix that rather than re-record with no guarantee of better results. Yes I am a cheat :oops:
In defense I can say my Gaveau with its uneven and heavy touch is hard to play pianissimo. But I love this piece too much to leave it with imperfections that are easy to fix.

Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento (5:01)

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Had a listen to your recording, this is a nice piece, enjoyed listening throughout. I can hear Scarlatti, and also a little bit of a Goyescas piece. Classical, with some unconventional harmonies. If this set is difficult, I think it would all the more be worth the time to learn and record. I had never heard of Rodrigo since hearing it here.

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
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:shock: Don't tell me you never heard the Concierto de Aranjuez with one of the most beautiful slow movements ever written ?? Had Rodrigo not written anything else, he would still be famous.

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:07 pm 
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I have to say that I don't really like this one. It's too long. You're playing is fine; I guess I just don't get into the piece. Your volume editing did not go so great; I can hear/pinpoint the exact places where you made the adjustments.

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
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pianolady wrote:
I have to say that I don't really like this one. It's too long.
It's not. You are just too young for it :P

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Your volume editing did not go so great; I can hear/pinpoint the exact places where you made the adjustments.
I could not, myself. Can you give me the exact timings of these two spots ? I wonder if you may be hearing something different.

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
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The first is between 0:24-0:26 - several clicks.
The end one is at 5:01. You can probably fix these by sliding that thingy-thing over a tiny bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
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Yes those are the spots indeed. But it's very subtle indeed, I doubt that anyone else would hear it.
Can't do harm to have another go though. There is also too much pedal in one place.
Sliding the thingy-thing a bit.... I did not think of that really :P

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Fine playing with extra plus for consistent and well executed ornaments. Not a very inspiring piece though - I guess I must be too young also. I didn't hear any clicks.

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As I was otherwise pleased with the recording I decided to just fix that rather than re-record with no guarantee of better results. Yes I am a cheat :oops:


I knew it!! :shock: This is a slippery slope, you'll be midi editing in a year :D


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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
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troglodyte wrote:
Fine playing with extra plus for consistent and well executed ornaments.
Thanks ! Getting those trills right (sort of) was not at all easy. Some just didn't want to come.

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Not a very inspiring piece though - I guess I must be too young also. I didn't hear any clicks.
Somehow, it inspires me big time. I guess I am more attuned to the long and placid lines of early music than some here. This is essentially early music despite the clever dissonance.

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I knew it!! :shock: This is a slippery slope, you'll be midi editing in a year :D
Haha... no, because I will be re-recording this one. I think re-recording ought to be by middle name :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento
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Today I rerecorded this one, and also made a video of it to be seen at http://youtu.be/9ffPORFMm6E
No post-process trickery this time :D

Rodrigo - Sonatas de Castilla - 4: Sonata, como un Tiento (5:01)

Forgot to mention, this piece is dedicated to Frank Marshall.

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