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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:25 am 
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Hi Mariangela,

Thank you for listing those works of Eduardo Dutra for solo piano. Today how can pianists obtain copies of the sheet music for those piano pieces? If you could kindly give us some information on that, it would be most helpful. Thank you for your assistance.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:32 am 
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Hi Richard,

Mariangela did not leave us a way to contact her, so leaving the message above is the only possibility for now.

So far as I know, those scores were lost or destroyed after Dutra's death. It might take an organized search of municipal and university music libraries and private archives in Rio de Janeiro to locate any extant scores. This might be the next closest thing to archeology. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:03 pm 
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Rachfan wrote:
Hi Richard,

Mariangela did not leave us a way to contact her, so leaving the message above is the only possibility for now.

David


Hello, David,

That in itself makes me think it is a hoax.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:16 am 
Eduardo D'Utra e Silva, son of Fabrizio, inherited from his parents love for God, the arts, science, philosophy, and the rights of a very popular drug - Feverfew - among other drugs manufactured by the Laboratory F.Dutra, leading the name of Fabrizio D'Utra e Silva.

Eduardo excellent student since childhood, and dedicated perfectionist, I'm philosophy, was trained in music, very competent with string instruments, especially violin and masterful pianist during his lifetime wrote many scholarly works and large numbers were presented, was formed in pharmacy and medicine having specialized in pediatrics, philosopher, poligloto, loved boxing and wrestling sports activities which specializes. Eduardo develop teaching techniques that apply to students of piano, violin and his sons
In music he joined the neo-romanticism. He studied music theory with renowned masters; violin with Joachim Boisson; perfected on piano with Henrique Oswald, Barroso Netto and Charley Lachmund.

Eduardo Dutra, was a composer and scholar of great reputation over the years outstanding conductors and soloists performed several of his works, among them Francisco Braga (was artistic director and conductor of the Orchestra Symphonic Concert Society), Henry Spedini (conductor holder Symphony Orchestra of Theatro Municipal do Rio de Janeiro), by Symphony Orchestra of Rio de Janeiro under the baton of conductor and professor Ernesto Ronchini, conductor Arthur Bosmans, Martinez Degree and recently Arnaldo Cohen recently presented one of his works in his Cd edited in 2005.
Among the soloists, Mario Neves, Mario de Azevedo, Arnaldo Rebello, Dyla Josetti, Isaac Feldman, Peri Machado and others. His works are performed more; Concerto in F sharp minor; "Balet - pantomime" entitled "The Princess of Medinet - el Fayum," five "Preludes", "Orientales" (suite of seven dances of oriental character), "Idyll" Etc. For Piano, "Sonata in C minor; twelve" Preludes "and six" Miniatures "(suite child); five" Studies ";" Five "Mazurkas" and three "Viennese Waltzes"; concert, "Three Berceuses" "Concerto No. 2" for piano and "Concerto No. 1" for orquestra.Arthur Rubinstein presented several pieces and presented Anatoli Kitain Hall Carnigie presented in the composition of Eduardo "Prelude in F Minor." The Orquetra Sinfonica Brasileira presented hundreds of works by Eduardo of which he himself excelled "Prelude for String" and "Concerto for piano and orchestra.
Eduardo studied philosophy, theology and many hours per day with equal dedication to the music, to lecture to a select group of students, with the sole purpose of perfecting them, competent administrator transforms the lab he inherited from his father, one of the most important its segment, and its production successes in various areas combined produce beautiful book.
Eduardo, marries a young socialite Iracema, pianist, artist plastica (traditional society of Alagoas and Rio), had two sons Dick Farney (Farnesio Dutra e Silva) famous conductor, arranger, singer, pianist, actor and presenter and Cyll Farney (Cylleno Dutra e Silva) known film and television actor, entrepreneur, musician.
Eduardo Dutra and devoted himself Suiva follow very diligently to encourage the children in their artistic activities and was the biggest fan of the work they performed, died in 1953 of myocardial infarction fulminat.
I am heiress to Dick Farney and I am available for more information on Dick Farney, Cyll Farney children and the Dutra Dr.Eduardo own Eduardo Dutra.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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Another gobbledygook spam post from this shady person - cross-posted 4 times in different forums. There really is no point to this. I have removed this person (email address dickfarney@us.com :roll: ) from the forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:27 am 
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Another gobbledygook spam post from this shady person - cross-posted 4 times in different forums. There really is no point to this. I have removed this person (email address dickfarney@us.com :roll: ) from the forum.


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I am heiress to Dick Farney and I am available for more information on Dick Farney, Cyll Farney children and the Dutra Dr.Eduardo own Eduardo Dutra.


That is the point of it:a scam.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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It's truly annoying and dismaying.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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I have found this about Eduardo Dutra. It is an interview with Arnaldo Cohen, given in 2001, who owns a copy of the very same prelude, given to him by Jacques Klein. TThis is an interview given to the BBC when of the issue of a CD with music by Brazilian composers. I have chosen not to translate, but the gist is that Cohen went to look through the scores Klein had given him and came across this Prelude. Who Eduardo was and who was Farnesio was a mystery to him, so he placed an advertisement asking for information. He received three calls and discovered very little, really, and the information is to be found above (was it Luis Sarro who wrote it? I cannot remember).

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/portuguese/cultura/011205_cohenmv.shtml

Cohen - A história mais fascinante desse disco começou em 1970, quando meu professor na época, Jacques Klein, me disse que estava fazendo uma limpeza na biblioteca e perguntou se eu queria algumas coisas. Claro que eu queria, não tinha dinheiro, não tinha muita música...

Trinta anos depois, quando fui escolher o repertório para o disco, resolvi dar uma olhada na minha biblioteca para ver o que eu tinha. Me deparo com uma peça chamada Prelúdio, assinada por Eduardo Dutra. Eu leio - é uma peça pequena, que está no disco - parecia um pouco Rachmaninov, uma coisa bonita. Não tem o nome da editora, nada. Só o ano, 1940, e uma dedicatória. "A meu filho Farnésio."

No Brasil, fui tentar descobrir. Um amigo jornalista colocou um anúncio no Globo, no Rio de Janeiro, pedindo a quem soubesse quem foi Eduardo Dutra que entrasse em contato. Recebi três telefonemas. Eduardo Dutra era um músico amador, químico industrial, que tinha um laboratório farmacêutico, que aos domingos reunia os amigos para fazer saraus, reuniões musicais. E que era pai do Farnésio. Só que o Farnésio é famoso pianista de jazz brasileiro Dick Farney, irmão do Cyl Farney, o ator dos tempos da Atlântida e do Grande Otelo.

Foi uma surpresa extraordinária. Agora, se o Eduardo Dutra, quando compôs isso, em 1940 - porque ele compôs para uso interno, não foi para vender nem divulgar coisa nenhuma - acho que se ele soubesse, 60 anos depois, que essa obra seria gravada e distribuída no mundo inteiro, tenho certeza de que iria ficar muito feliz. É uma satisfação pessoal, e essa história talvez seja para mim a mais fascinante desse disco.


Here are two recordings, a Live one by Pierre Feraux:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WavNsm5 ... re=related

And Cohen's Version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzgHgkLu ... re=related

Famous composer indeed!

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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Hi Richard,

Had this blurb been in Spanish, I would have attempted it. But Portugese is quite different. Maybe Luis could assist us.

Thanks for adding the two other extant recordings. The three interpretations are different in some details--tempo, rubato etc., yet substantially similar in approach.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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Rachfan wrote:
Had this blurb been in Spanish, I would have attempted it. But Portugese is quite different. Maybe Luis could assist us.

Google translate does a very decent job:


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Cohen - The fascinating story of this album began in 1970, when my teacher at the time, Jacques Klein, told me he was doing a cleanup in the library and asked if I wanted some things. Of course I wanted, I had no money, did not have much music ...

Thirty years later, when I choose the repertoire for the record, I decided to take a look at my library to see what I had. I come across a piece called Prelude, signed by Eduardo Dutra. I read - is a small part that is hard - seemed a bit Rachmaninov, a beautiful thing. It has the name of the publisher, nothing. Only the year 1940, and a dedication. "The Farnesio my son."

In Brazil, I was trying to figure out. A journalist friend put an ad in the Globe, in Rio de Janeiro, asking anyone who knew who was Eduardo Dutra to get in touch. I received three phone calls. Eduardo Dutra was an amateur musician, industrial chemist, who had a pharmaceutical laboratory, which met on Sunday evenings to make friends, musical meetings. And who was the father Farnesio. Only the Farnesio is famous Brazilian jazz pianist Dick Farney, brother Cyl Farney, the actor of the times of Atlantis and Grande Otelo.

It was an extraordinary surprise. Now, if Eduardo Dutra, when he composed it in 1940 - because he wrote for internal use, not to sell or divulge anything - I think if he knew, 60 years later, that this work would be recorded and distributed worldwide I'm sure he would be very happy. It's a personal satisfaction, and this story is perhaps the most fascinating to me that disk.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:07 pm 
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Hi Chris,

Thanks for deciphering it! Arnaldo Cohen speaks English well, but his CD was Brazilian, so I can well understand why the notes were in Portugese.

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It was an extraordinary surprise. Now, if Eduardo Dutra, when he composed it in 1940 - because he wrote for internal use, not to sell or divulge anything - I think if he knew, 60 years later, that this work would be recorded and distributed worldwide I'm sure he would be very happy. It's a personal satisfaction, and this story is perhaps the most fascinating to me that disk.


That was EXACTLY my reason for learning and recording this fine piece of Dutra. I believe that a good many pianists here at PS are delighted to play music composed by unknown or forgotten composers. There are many gems that never see the light of day. I was unaware of the Pierre Feraux recording until posted here, but I would bet that his thinking on recording this piece was very much the same. Of course, Feraux and Cohen, being professional artists, both probably made money from it, but I just enjoyed the personal satisfaction of sharing it with others.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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That was from an interview to the Brazilian service of the BBC. I wonder how he and Feraux solved the question of the royalties? By saying that every effort was made to contact the owners but with little success and that they would be delighted if any eventual owner came forth? This is the usual formula.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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Hi David,
I have enjoyed your performance very much. I didn´t know this lovely piece and composer. I think, it´s played quite rarely. A very romantic and impassioned composition. Though without score I can´t comment on details, I think, you have brought out this spirit of the piece very fine. Your playing is very subtle and expressive! Thank you very much for sharing this little gem.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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Hi Andreas,

Yes, this is a piece of high merit. In listening to the links provided here of the performances by Analdo Cohen and Pierre Feraux, and including my own rendition, there are a few differences, but far more commonalities. I'm sure everyone had the same problem--trying to best serve the composer in playing an unknown score.

I appreciate your kind comments!

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Eduardo Dutra: Preludio, Op. 32 in F#m
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Hi!
I just read everything in a fast way, and one sentence got my attention:

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Only the Farnesio is famous Brazilian jazz pianist Dick Farney, brother Cyl Farney, the actor of the times of Atlantis and Grande Otelo.


I think this sentence is better translated to: "THE THING IS THAT Farnesio is the famous Brazilian jazz pianist..."

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