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 Post subject: I'm confused these symbols.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:54 pm 
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How are these three symbols different? i don't know even their name. I can play tr but i'm confused the first two. :?
pls give me explanations and examples.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm confused these symbols.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:56 pm 
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Mr.chopinfan wrote:
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How are these three symbols different? i don't know even their name. I can play tr but i'm confused the first two. :?
pls give me explanations and examples.


The first is called a "turn" or more properly a gruppetto or cadence. The second is a trill. How to play these is way beyond the scope of a simple post and is dependent upon the literature, the composer, and yes the performer. It should be well thought out and supported. You need to begin by examining the table of ornaments found in the Klavierb├╝chlein f├╝r Wilhelm Friedemann Bach written by J.S. Bach. It may be seen at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornament_(music)

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 Post subject: Re: I'm confused these symbols.
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See e.g. http://www.pennuto.com/music/jsb_ornm.htm

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 Post subject: Re: I'm confused these symbols.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:16 am 
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thank you. I'd searched and asked in piano forum in my country for several months but no one knows and answers me but i have very quick replies in this forum. I understand much better now. thanks. I'll keep practicing.


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