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 Post subject: Liszt - Consolation I
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:06 pm 
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thanks for all feedback. this time with more refined tonal control, I have set a new record slow (1m 51 sec). this is after the suggested "few glasses of red wine" experiment, before and after. How many takes? Around 6. This version has more dynamic contrast and artistic expression than before.

P.S. by the way, i was referred to Eric Haulstead's playing (1m20sec) on the liszt site. His touch was much more heavier than mine - is that just a personal style thing?

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How much wine did you drink? You're going to kill me, but at times it was almost too slow. But that is definitely a personal choice and not a reason to re-record.
I think your pedalling is better, now.

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This is good. Now it sounds like you feel the piece, the speed is right (not too slow IMO), and there are no more ugly gaps and rushes. One could niggle about minuscule details, like your shortening of the eight notes in bar 9 and similar, but this is a good version that we can proudly have on the site. Of course we now expect the other 5 items to be of equal quality :wink:

I have put this up the site. If anyone has some text and perhaps an image for the new page I would be forever grateful (have no inspiration for writing at the moment).

BTW - A heavy, or rather, deep touch would not go amiss in this piece. But you must also have the instrument with appropriate deep sound otherwise it won't work. I tried this on the organ once but it did not sound right and there were not enough keys on the keyboard anyway. But one could make it sound a bit like an organ.

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only 1/2 a glass. not a big deal.
I am buring all 3 versions. 1.36; 1.18;1.51 to my friends(piano freak) in austrlaia and to my last teacher Philda Green. and see what there opinions.
Now we can waiting from Chris and Robert, Olaf.............PFJ.......etc.

I can only submit one version, so that be it.


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Yes, really good. Nothing to complain about this time :D. It is slower than most recordings but sound very relaxed and...dolce ;).

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Of course we now expect the other 5 items to be of equal quality :wink:

BTW - A heavy, or rather, deep touch would not go amiss in this piece. But you must also have the instrument with appropriate deep sound otherwise it won't work. I tried this on the organ once but it did not sound right and there were not enough keys on the keyboard anyway. But one could make it sound a bit like an organ.[/quote]

Thanks Guys.

Yes, I will "try" my best to play the rest........consolations.....consultation more likly.. :lol:

May be one day.....I live in a big house and with a 7 foot grand....(when retired).


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That was very enjoyable. There's plasticity of melodic line in the bass and treble, too. Isn't it amazing how frame of mind directly and profoundly shapes a performance? Huzzah for John Mar! :lol:

Nice work.


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Yes, very good now. Pretty slow, and rubato, sounds like more than a half glass of red wine :lol:
No, joke, it sounds right so.

The only thing is I would appreciate if you start with audition postings for the other 5 remaining Consolations and so on after you truely think for yourself that they are played very well and on final stage. Instead running through several iterations. This would highjack the audition room a bit I think, since the audition room should not be teacher substitute. Of course, if there are reading errors that are friendly pointed out by "dog nose authorities :D " that is another thing, to record a second chance. I know from what I speak :wink:

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Yes, I go along with the previous speaker here. I am not looking forward to several iterations of each Consolation as you progress. Be your own critic first of all, by now you can well anticipate the things we would pick on. We're looking forward to versions that are as good as this one.

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You took the words out of my mouth, Chris.

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PJF wrote:
You took the words out of my mouth, Chris.

Yuck. Much as I like you I would never do that :lol: :P

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