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Woke up this morning with a severe pain at the base of my RH thumb. Got so bad during the day that my hand is all but unusable and hurts with every movement and I went home from work after lunch (last time I called in sick was over 4 years ago). Guess I better go see a doctor tomorrow. I feel totally crippled... had great trouble buttoning my shirt this morming. Any thoughts of touching a keyboard are far away. Sh*te this is no life :x

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Chris, this is not good news at all! Yep, I think a visit to the doctor's office is in your very near future. I sincerely hope that it's a problem that's easily remediable. Bach would be very lonely without you (not to mention PS). :)

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Location: Obamanation, unfortunately...
You could always tackle the left hand etudes! :wink:

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sarah wrote:
I sincerely hope that it's a problem that's easily remediable. Bach would be very lonely without you (not to mention PS).

Thanks sarah. But I think ole JS can do well without me these days, as can PS.

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You could always tackle the left hand etudes! :wink:

Very funny. Actually, what coincidence, just the other day I dragged through Bartok's LH etude just to see what it was like to play LH only. I'd try that again if I did not feel like a wrung-out rag.

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Location: Obamanation, unfortunately...
Regardless, I hope the diagnosis is nothing major.

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Chris, I hope it's nothing serious. In the worst case scenario you will be anyway able to play the Elizabethan repertoire following the performance practice of the time. :lol:

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Thanks all for the concern :D

Just back from the doctor, he reckons it's tendonitis caused by overstraining. I blame tuesday's fitness when we were trying to push some imaginary limit. Nothing to worry about, should be fixed in a week or so when I give it rest, cool it, and take my anti-inflammatory medication. It's damn inconvenient though, and hurts like hell.

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techneut wrote:
Just back from the doctor, he reckons it's tendonitis caused by overstraining. I blame tuesday's fitness when we were trying to push some imaginary limit. Nothing to worry about, should be fixed in a week or so when I give it rest, cool it, and take my anti-inflammatory medication.


Whew, glad to hear it shouldn't be a permanent disability. Be sure to take the meds! (I know to say that because I have two brothers and a dad. :wink: :D )

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Dang. I hope you get over this soon. :( Glad to hear it's not permanent, though. 8)

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Horowitzian wrote:
Dang. I hope you get over this soon. :( Glad to hear it's not permanent, though. 8)

Thanks !
It's cleared up very quickly, so quick that I wonder if it wasn't just some knee-jerk reaction instead of tendonitis. I can hardly feel it anymore now and am back to normal.
It was a good opportunity to peruse some left-hand repertoire, which I'd never done in my life before. A nice experience and not as strenuous as I thought it would be. Had a good stab at the Bartok Etude, Brahms/Bach Chaconne, and Scriabin Prelude&Nocturne. I dismissed the Saint-Saens Op.135 etudes after playing through them once though. What boring drivel :roll:

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The etudes are not that exciting. You should instead play the 2-piano arrangment of his piano concerti; record the secondo and then play over with the primo :wink: A one man orchestra!

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Dang. I hope you get over this soon. :( Glad to hear it's not permanent, though. 8)

Thanks !
It's cleared up very quickly, so quick that I wonder if it wasn't just some knee-jerk reaction instead of tendonitis. I can hardly feel it anymore now and am back to normal.
It was a good opportunity to peruse some left-hand repertoire, which I'd never done in my life before. A nice experience and not as strenuous as I thought it would be. Had a good stab at the Bartok Etude, Brahms/Bach Chaconne, and Scriabin Prelude&Nocturne. I dismissed the Saint-Saens Op.135 etudes after playing through them once though. What boring drivel :roll:


Chris, may I suggest Bach-Sosa B flat major Invention for the LH? And my wishes of a speedy recovery to you too.

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Chris, may I suggest Bach-Sosa B flat major Invention for the LH? And my wishes of a speedy recovery to you too.

Thanks.
Actually, it's already over but it feels like I must be careful not to overdo RH stretching for a while.

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That's good news Chris! On a slightly related topic Leon Fleisher will be here in Chicago
this month after a long hiatus from the two-handed repertory. It's an all Bach program. :)

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techneut wrote:
Horowitzian wrote:
Dang. I hope you get over this soon. :( Glad to hear it's not permanent, though. 8)

Thanks !
It's cleared up very quickly, so quick that I wonder if it wasn't just some knee-jerk reaction instead of tendonitis. I can hardly feel it anymore now and am back to normal.
It was a good opportunity to peruse some left-hand repertoire, which I'd never done in my life before. A nice experience and not as strenuous as I thought it would be. Had a good stab at the Bartok Etude, Brahms/Bach Chaconne, and Scriabin Prelude&Nocturne. I dismissed the Saint-Saens Op.135 etudes after playing through them once though. What boring drivel :roll:


That's great! I'm glad to hear it. :cool: There's always a silver lining; you were able to explore rep you probably wouldn't have bothered with otherwise.

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Sometimes it just helps to know what caused the pain in the first place. I had issues with left hand carpal tunnel, but they pretty much went away when I quit working on the Chopin 25/12. Then I had right hand issues while working on the 25/6. All gone now, though. I'm still working on difficult rep, but nothing that aggravates the carpal tunnel like those two pieces did.

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All to prove that etudes aren't good for you :lol:

In my case, I guess it must have been the fitness session the day before. It was pretty hefty, sometimes Marion feels like pushing us to search for "the limit". I must have strained something there. Anyway it seems sorted now - although I can still feel it, and clearly need to be careful as big RH stretches still cause some discomfort.

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techneut wrote:
All to prove that etudes aren't good for you :lol:

Ha, I'm working on the 25/7 now. There are some fiddly bits in the left hand, but it's not relentless like the other two, so no worries. :D

Your problem will probably go away completely before too long, but if you keep pushing it while you can still feel that discomfort, you might prolong the problem. Take it easy. ;)

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On a practical note ... did you try alternating cold press and hot press? And you can always take some arnica root to speed healing.

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Hi Chris,
sorry, I really should have more often a look also in this forum :oops: . As I have read the first lines of this post I was shocked :shock: , but then I have read further and now I´m glad, that your pain seems to be over. :D Yes, I would recommend, that you don´t overdo to demand your right hand. (What about playing Ravels piano concerto for the left hand meanwhile ? Nothing easier then this. :lol: ) And why not using the time to nag a bit more around in the audition-room meanwhile and do some nitpickings, would be the best thing you could do, isn´t it? :wink: :lol:

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nathanscoleman wrote:
On a practical note ... did you try alternating cold press and hot press? And you can always take some arnica root to speed healing

I did apply cold compress lavishly, and that really helped. Heat actually, while it also feels like relief, was not recommended by the doctor in a case of inflammation.

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sorry, I really should have more often a look also in this forum :oops: . As I have read the first lines of this post I was shocked :shock: , but then I have read further and now I´m glad, that your pain seems to be over. :D Yes, I would recommend, that you don´t overdo to demand your right hand. (What about playing Ravels piano concerto for the left hand meanwhile ? Nothing easier then this. :lol: ) And why not using the time to nag a bit more around in the audition-room meanwhile and do some nitpickings, would be the best thing you could do, isn´t it? :wink: :lol:

Thanks for the concern Andreas. I'm all better now and back to normal (but can still feel it when I push it too hard).
I intend to record the Scriabin LH Prelude+Nocturne and the Brahms-Bach LH chaconne when my grand is tuned. Maybe also the Bartok LH Etude. These are the pieces I worked on while disposed.

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I intend to record the Scriabin LH Prelude+Nocturne and the Brahms-Bach LH chaconne when my grand is tuned. Maybe also the Bartok LH Etude. These are the pieces I worked on while disposed.


I´m attending these recordings with great interest. I really hope, you will be able to use your right hand normally soon and I´m very glad you feel better now. I´m spending all my free-time to practise, to do recordings and the rest to comment other members in the AR, so I´m quite rarely looking into the other forums, which I regret, especially in this case. (It´s a over a week you wrote this topic and I didn´t notice it. I always was wondering myself, why you were not posting anything more in all the time. I feel very sorry about that.)

And: we really need you here not only as an excellent pianist and a grand and ambitious Bach-player, who wants to record the complete Bach-work for piano as you said and I´m very curious on your Mikrokosmos-project, which also is an absolute great idea! So, I wish you all the best for the regeneration of your right hand from heart.

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I´m attending these recordings with great interest. I really hope, you will be able to use your right hand normally soon and I´m very glad you feel better now. I´m spending all my free-time to practise, to do recordings and the rest to comment other members in the AR, so I´m quite rarely looking into the other forums, which I regret, especially in this case. (It´s a over a week you wrote this topic and I didn´t notice it. I always was wondering myself, why you were not posting anything more in all the time. I feel very sorry about that.)

I have not been recording for a long time because my grand has been in awful voice ever since the frost broke. Expect some recordings after it has been tunes (end next week). The little bout of tendonitis has not really held me up in any way.

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And: we really need you here not only as an excellent pianist and a grand and ambitious Bach-player, who wants to record the complete Bach-work for piano as you said and I´m very curious on your Mikrokosmos-project, which also is an absolute great idea!

Haha, ambitious, yes. Not sure about the other things. Most of my Bach recordings do not stand close scrutiny by today's high Bach standards - for which you are mostly to blame Andreas !

I''ll do a better job on the Mikrokosmos but I hope I can get the two-piano items properly together this time.

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Maybe also the Bartok LH Etude.


Good luck with that, it asks for a well-rounded octave technique.

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Really to blame? :cry: I feel so ashamed. :oops:

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Really to blame? :cry: I feel so ashamed. :oops:

I should have written 'to praise' not 'to blame' :D

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I should have written 'to praise' not 'to blame' :D


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