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Horowitzian
 Post subject: Possibly a dumb question...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:56 am 
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...but here goes nothing! :lol:

If a piece of music has a pickup measure, do you number the pickup measure as "Measure 1" or do you begin with the first full measure as "Measure 1"?

Thanks in advance! :D

PS--Mods/admin, if there is a better place for this question, please move this thread. Thanks.

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alf
 Post subject: Re: Possibly a dumb question...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:55 am 
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Horowitzian wrote:
...but here goes nothing! :lol:

If a piece of music has a pickup measure, do you number the pickup measure as "Measure 1" or do you begin with the first full measure as "Measure 1"?

Thanks in advance! :D

PS--Mods/admin, if there is a better place for this question, please move this thread. Thanks.


You start counting measures from the first full measure.

http://cnx.org/content/m12717/latest/

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Terez
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I wish that the scholars could agree on first and second endings, and how to count them. I have some anthologies that count them separately and some that don't.

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alf
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Terez wrote:
I wish that the scholars could agree on first and second endings, and how to count them. I have some anthologies that count them separately and some that don't.


I don't know if there are well established best practices here. What I know is that Henle and Wiener-Urtext, for example, usually count only the second ending bars. EMB Urtext of Beethoven Sonatas, on the contrary, count every single bar of both first and second endings.

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Horowitzian
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Thanks again guys (and gals if any)!! Exactly what I needed to know. :D And thanks for the link, alf!


Cheers! 8)

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Yes, the pickup measure is not counted but the last measure is.
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How many PSers does it take to answer a question? :lol:

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Terez wrote:
How many PSers does it take to answer a question? :lol:


Repetita Juufant!

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Terez wrote:
How many PSers does it take to answer a question? :lol:


Repetita Juufant!


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