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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:40 am 
hey, im new to this all :D just wondering what you people out there think..who are ur favourite pianists and why...i know that this is a heaps general sort of question but hey, im open to your opinions :P thanks ...

um id have to say one of my favourite is martha argerich..does anyone know her?? hmmm, i LOVE her recording of jeux d'eau and all the chopin stuff..her technique is soo good..when i was learning jeux d'eau i listened to her a lot


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"does anyone know her??"

Man, what a question!

I almost got to see her play the Chopin E minor concerto with Ashkenazy conducting the Philharmonia, but — you guessed it — she cancelled, and Ashkenazy played and conducted a Mozart concerto instead, which was excellent but not Argerich. =(

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alexei sultanov

The man has so much power, Technicly perfect and his dinamics are great. also are his interpetations of pieces but that's personal

http://recitals.alexeisultanov.ru al his recordings for free

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Yes, what a question :lol:. I guess she is among the most famous living pianists in the world...and Gan, I really understand your disappointment when she canceled (Ashkenazy plays really well though). Hope she does not develop he concert cancelations in the same way as Michelangeli did.

I do enjoy Argerich and her Chopin preludes (even though she hits a left hand bass note wrong in the beginning of the 16:th prelude...I believe she misread the score actually!) and Chopin concertos are the ones I rank on the top of Chopin interpretations.

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Actually, that time she cancelled for health reasons (which isn't surprising given her alleged chain-smoking-and-drinking habits). But I have heard that she has a track record of cancelling concerts at short notice. (That's only what I've heard . . . I take no responsibility for the accuracy of that statement.)

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Actually, that time she cancelled for health reasons (which isn't surprising given her alleged chain-smoking-and-drinking habits). But I have heard that she has a track record of cancelling concerts at short notice. (That's only what I've heard . . . I take no responsibility for the accuracy of that statement.)

I have heard this as well. It might be a problem when you reach a certain level of fame and popularity and EVERY CONCERT NIGHT need to keep up with that rumour and really prove that you are the master of the instrument. She is not alone, several other pianists frequently cancel as well. With Michelangeli, it was crazy. He canceled a lot more than played. But he was a perfectionist and never took the chance and played if he was not 100% he would not play a single note wrong and he never did!

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[quote="robert"]"Yes, what a question :lol:. I guess she is among the most famous living pianists in the world"

oops :oops: i knew that haha WELL she is extremely good


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oops :oops: i knew that haha WELL she is extremely good

Is she now ! Thanks for enlightening us :roll: Any more good pianists we need to know about ?

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Is she now ! Thanks for enlightening us :roll: Any more good pianists we need to know about ?


C'mon, give the person a break.

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This was a break :wink:

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oh. okay then...just pointing out the obvious...im sure not ALL people like argerich..just cos im ignorant :lol:


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I do not particularly like Argerich's inflammatory playing, but I do acknowledge she is one of the most extraordinary (technically and temperamentally) pianists of all times.

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what do you mean inflammatory?? um im not really sure what that word means...trusty ol dictionary.com: tending to arouse anger, hostility, passion...

if thats what you mean, i dont really agree...admittedly, ive never seen her play live but the cd that i have with chopin/brahms/liszt/ravel wasnt like that


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Perhaps inflammatory isn't the most appropriate word then. I meant her feverish energy and imagination, her uncontrollled passion and tendency to explode in all directions. She is a loose cannon. In many cases that does not serve the music at all. But this is controversial, I better get out of here quickly now :wink:

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Hmzz maybe they call that interpetation. I know that some interpetation is on de sheet music written but If it is interpetation you can't say that it is wrong!

I don't like her playing eather but her technic is wonderfull

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I better get out of here quickly now


Ha, ha, ha. Yes, maybe she's hiding on this forum and is now going to come looking for you. :twisted:


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Ha, ha, ha. Yes, maybe she's hiding on this forum and is now going to come looking for you. :twisted:

Yup, scary.... Or worse, you lot coming after me .... :P

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Ha, ha, ha. Yes, maybe she's hiding on this forum and is now going to come looking for you. :twisted:


yeh, thats me...i constantly do that all the time cough*cough how did you know

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"I meant her feverish energy and imagination, her uncontrollled passion and tendency to explode in all directions. She is a loose cannon. In many cases that does not serve the music at all. But this is controversial, I better get out of here quickly now :wink:"



hmmm well, particularly with jeux d'eau by ravel, its pretty important that it doesnt seem that u r fully exerting yourself(or being crazily passionate)...and cos its impressionistic, it has to flow nicely (no, not like a 'loose cannon')..i think argerich did that really well...so yeh, cant say i agree but then again i dont know her extremely well, just some of her recordings


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maybe I don't like argerich that much but I think you need to listen to this:

[EDIT BY ROBERT]

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The thing I like most about Argerich is her boldness; the thing I most dislike is her boldness. Sometimes it's thrilling; other times it's like the screech of scrap metal. I feel the same way about Pollini's Chopin Etudes and Gould's WTK. I guess I'm moody.

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rachmaninoff wrote:
maybe I don't like argerich that much but I think you need to listen to this:

[EDIT BY ROBERT]

Sorry but that recording is copyrighted.

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I'm sorry your right. I was forgotten that

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Argerich is the greatest living classical pianist. Bar none.


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agreed bahaha :lol:


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Argerich is the greatest living classical pianist. Bar none.


no I don't think so.

I think she you can compare her with nelson freire. But What about lang lang or kissin?

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I have no problem with declaring the greatest composer of all times (it just has to be Bach... who else) but I do not believe there is a 'greatest pianist', whether living or deceased. There are many great pianists, they are all different and have their own unique strenghts and weaknesses. Comparing is a risky game, let alone designing one 'the best'. It's just what you look for in a pianist.

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Argerich is good for Chopin, indeed, but who else does she play that well? Who else does she play at all?

rachmaninov - I find Kissin quite good, specially for Rachmaninov's stuff, and I haven't heard Lang Lang that much to judge. What do you think about him?



Still, I'll stay with my statement - Franz Liszt is the greatest piano player of all time! Unfortunately I don't own a single recording to prove it :)


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Argerich is good for Chopin, indeed, but who else does she play that well? Who else does she play at all?

rachmaninov - I find Kissin quite good, specially for Rachmaninov's stuff, and I haven't heard Lang Lang that much to judge. What do you think about him?



Still, I'll stay with my statement - Franz Liszt is the greatest piano player of all time! Unfortunately I don't own a single recording to prove it :)


I think kissin is to slow for rachmaninoff. Gilels and lugansky are my favo's for rachmaninoff
berman has the perfect rachmaninoff piano concerto 3 recording!

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Yes, I think Gilels is good too. But still, when Rachmaninov comes to question, the pianist I prefer is Sergei Rachmaninov himself (although the recordings are very old). And the third concerto is the best one ;)


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yeh, well okay, argerich mite not be the best pianist of all time...of course how can anyone be compared to liszt, bach (woh i wish i could hear him play his own pieces), rachmaninov....has anyone heard recordings of debussy playing his own music? its funny because he totally disregards his own markings haha :lol: obviously he can cos he's debussy and its his compositionfs


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I'll listen to the art of Martha Argerich next week in Hamburg :D
Then I'll tell you about my experience...
Unfortunately nothing from Chopin, but a lot of other nice things


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Lucky Lars! What are these other nice things?


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Martha Argerich, Klavier and
Lilya Zilberstein, Klavier

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Fantasie f-Moll KV 608 (2 Klaviere)
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Andante mit Variationen KV 501 (vierhändig)
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Sonate B-Dur KV 186c (vierhändig)
Robert Schumann: Andante und Variationen B-Dur op. 46 (2 Klaviere)
Dmitri Schostakowitsch: Concertino a-Moll op. 94 (2 Klaviere)
Johannes Brahms: Variationen über ein Thema von Haydn op. 56b (2 Klaviere)
Darius Milhaud: Scaramouche op. 165b (2 Klaviere)

Moll - minor
Dur - major


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I'll listen to the art of Martha Argerich next week in Hamburg :D
Then I'll tell you about my experience...
Unfortunately nothing from Chopin, but a lot of other nice things


Lars, which day, which location and time in Hamburg? Still tickets available?
Would be a 2 hours drive only for me...

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yeh, well okay, argerich mite not be the best pianist of all time...of course how can anyone be compared to liszt, bach (woh i wish i could hear him play his own pieces), rachmaninov....has anyone heard recordings of debussy playing his own music? its funny because he totally disregards his own markings haha :lol: obviously he can cos he's debussy and its his compositionfs


there has been told me that rachmaninoff couldn't play his ossia from rach 3 hahahaha

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@ MindenBlues:

Donnerstag, 02.11.06, 19.30 Uhr
Laeiszhalle, Großer Saal

There are still tickets available, e.g. at ticketonline dot de


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Donnerstag, 02.11.06, 19.30 Uhr
Laeiszhalle, Großer Saal

There are still tickets available, e.g. at ticketonline dot de


Thanks, but we are on the Isle of Ruegen this day, that's too far away for me (I hoped it is Saturday so we could have an intermediate stop on the way back home).

Schade für mich, jedoch wünsche ich Dir einen wunderschönen Argerich-Abend!

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there has been told me that rachmaninoff couldn't play his ossia from rach 3 hahahaha


That's gotta be b/s. The ossia isn't that difficult, and if he could play the rest of the concerto, he could surely have played the ossia if he wanted to.

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hmzz I heard that the ossia needs to be played in the same tempo as the concerto. Most pianist don't do that. I only know that wibi soerjadi does that.

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Well, if you play the ossia cadenza, that is the climax of the first movement. If you take the opening of the concerto at the tempo Rachmaninoff took it, then playing the ossia cadenza at the same tempo would probably sound like musical nonsense. (But then again, if you can pull it off in a convincing manner, all the more power to you.)

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I ask the guy which told me that.

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haha thats funny!


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Well, if you play the ossia cadenza, that is the climax of the first movement. If you take the opening of the concerto at the tempo Rachmaninoff took it, then playing the ossia cadenza at the same tempo would probably sound like musical nonsense. (But then again, if you can pull it off in a convincing manner, all the more power to you.)


what do you mean with musical nonsense? its different but it will sound good. I got the version of wibi soerjadi playing it on the tempo.

(I will ask the guy in a few days)

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Richter and Gould.

Richter because he is the one that interpretes a piece as it should be, but not in the sense of boring, unimpressive, score-following style that some people tend to fall in, trying to perfect a piece while perfectly following the score is playing it wrong. Richter can let a piece sound as it should be, and at the same time put in his great knowlegde and power. Some recordings are just stunning.

Gould was the master of Bach. Although his recordings are very unusual and will sound weird to those who don't know them well, I think his playing is very well and especially his Bach is of extraordinary quality. Never heard anyone like him after him. He is the direct opposite of Richter (almost), and that's why I like them both.

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Well my favourites are Vladimir Ashkenazy, Nikolai Demidenko and Lang Lang. The first two because I think they do Rachmaninov really, really, really, really well and I'm a big Rachmaninov nut :) And the last one because, well, he's just amazing. I love the energy of Lang Lang's performances.


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I think everyone should listen to Kemal Gekić 's recording of Liszt's Soirées musicales (S424/R236) and Ouverture de l'opéra "Guillaume Tell" (S552/R237)

[Available at Naxos]


Impressive. almost damn scary during the bombastic parts.


edit: here is a video of him playing the "la danza" (Tarantella) from the Soirees musicales.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCLenZleekw

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>..who are ur favourite pianists and why...

Hello to all. I'm new in this wonderful site and I'll send my recordings in the next days.
How many names? Living and not?
Ok, 10 names of all times:
Sofronitzki, Benedetti Michelangeli, Friedman, Horowitz, Richter, Sokolov, Pogorelich,
Francois, Pletnev, Rachmaninov.
But one cry to exclude Cortot, Berman, Feinberg, Gilels and many others.
But the first name (the pianist with a few recordings I would pay a billion to hear more
and see) : Scriabin, with the piano in fire and flying.
Why? I have an idea, but it's too long now (I must prepare the sending of my interpretations,
of course a mile over those names . Need emoticons?).
I think the reason is a kind of empathy of these pianists and my personal research of
musical simbolism. The illusion (of mine) to understand where they go, which ideas or psychic images enlights their pianism. All them do not think at the fidelity (dog,s affair) to the text
(apart Richter who thaught so) but research and in their personal,
comunicative way, find the myth which includes the music score and pre-exists
before and through the music score.

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Actually, my first favorite was Scott Joplin.
He's still fun to play, but now I'm getting into some Chopin stuff.

I'm kind of young, so if I can get some of the stuff I'm learning, I'll be so proud of myself.
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You don't have to tell us that. We're pretty crazy already :wink:

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Evan Everwood wrote:
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You don't have to tell us that. We're pretty crazy already :wink:

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