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 Post subject: Rhythm help needed
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:56 am 
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I must be going nuts because suddenly I am not sure if I'm playing this correctly. It's the first bar and the first three notes. Actually, it's really just the first note. I can't explain it very well, so I made a 25-second recording. The first version is the way I usually play it. But then somehow I started playing the first note shorter and more staccato and now I'm wondering if I should stick to playing it this new way. I hope someone can straighten me out...it's a detail that I need to get right.


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 Post subject: Re: Rhythm help needed
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:07 pm 
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Hi Monica,
In the first version you're rushing the 8th note (the G#).
The second version is correct. There isn't any rhythmic difference on the first two notes, but perhaps the staccato helps you hear the length of the 8th note more accurately?
Heather


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 Post subject: Re: Rhythm help needed
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:40 pm 
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I have to disagree with Heather. I think the 1st version is the rhythmically correct as far as the first bar goes. I don't hear any rush on the G#. I don't like the too long pause after bar 2 though, that breaks the flow.

The second version suffers from a lazy dotted rhythm (to which I'm prone too if I don't watch out for it). The dotted figure is played as if it were notated as a triplet.

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 Post subject: Re: Rhythm help needed
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:09 am 
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I'm inclined to agree with Chris. The second version sounds tripletised. You could try counting (rapidly!) each crotchet/quarter note subdivided into sixes as an experiment.


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 Post subject: Re: Rhythm help needed
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:37 am 
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Check with a metronome if you think I'm wrong ;) The B and A together should add up to an 8th, the same as the G#...


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 Post subject: Re: Rhythm help needed
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:53 am 
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Thank you for the help, you three! :)

Now I actually think I did rush the G-sharp a bit. I've been comparing two videos for the past ten minutes -

one is Horowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpzZ0epqKwE

and the other Yuja Wang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwpyZqqZODk

Their style is completely opposite from one another, but I believe their rhythm is the same. It just sounds different because Wang plays very sharp and staccato, whereas Horowitz is more legato. But listening back to my little test recording, I think my second version more closely matches these two recordings. Now I just have to nail down whether I want to play it legato or staccato. Right now, I'm sort of in between.

And yes, I should not have paused after bar 2. I'll correct that. Thanks for pointing it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Rhythm help needed
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:12 am 
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Uh, yes, of course the G# is too short in the first sample (and it should indeed add up to eight!) But the dotted rhythm is correct in the first and wrong in the second. Whether the tempo of the dotted rhythm in sample one matches the tempo in the remainder of that clip, I'm not so sure.


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