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Which Rach Piano Concerto do you like best?
Concerto no.1 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Concerto no.2 40%  40%  [ 10 ]
Concerto no.3 40%  40%  [ 10 ]
Concerto no.4 16%  16%  [ 4 ]
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 Post subject: The Rach Concerti
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:17 pm 
What is your favorite concerto by Rachmaninoff? What is your favorite part. I think that both the Rach 3 and 2 are the most famous and most frequently performed, i don't know about any of the other ones out there. I know that Rach has to be approached very carefully, lol but this is just to talk about their musicality. What are your opinions?


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Having listened to it so many times, the 3:rd is still my favourite, followed by 2:nd and 1:st. Never really get the hang of his 4:th.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:41 am 
Same here, I am absolutely in love with the third one. I am not new i am advanced and can play difficult stuff. I can play excerpts but when i compare what i can play to the prodigious complexity of the piece it makes me want to run away.


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love the concerto's then the preludes, trio elegiaque (not that famous but soooo beautiful)

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Really? I've never heard of that trio. I've got to listen to it one of these days! :D


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Ahhh...the second concerto. It still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. The third concerto has always been a piece for which I have the utmost respect; but I've never connected with it.


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TheKlavier wrote:
Really? I've never heard of that trio. I've got to listen to it one of these days! :D


There are 2 trio's. I don't like the one of tchaikovsky. Don't know anything about the other. does someone?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:55 pm 
I don't know much about his other compositions but i am very familiar with his piano works... Has anybody ever played like and excerpt from one of those monster concerti? I've played the second movement up to where the climax is... :)


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second movement of the first,second,third or fourth? I think you mean the second.

I don't play them but When I'm at conservatorium ( i hope this year) than I will try it in about 2/3 years. Starting with the first or second.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:47 pm 
That's cool, i meant the third. But i can't and shouldn't be playing something with such difficulty. The second movement is so beautiful, i love to hear it! Conservatory? That's cool, i'm a junior in high school right now. Good luck in the conservatory! BTW Try #2 it's not as bad as the first and it sounds much better! :)


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TheKlavier wrote:
BTW Try #2 it's not as bad as the first and it sounds much better! :)


don't talk like that. The first is beatifully and higly underestimated. Just listen carefully and with attention. You will love it 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:01 am 
You know what. You're right. I haven't listened to it nearly as much as i have the 2,3. I should listen more carefully before i judge. But i still think that the second and third are beautiful! :)


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haha yeah they are. If you here the 4th the origional you can hear the first,second and third in it. Every passage!

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You know what? i've never heard the 4th concerto. It's odd, because i've heard 1,2,3. Are you serious, it's really based on 1,2,3? Never heard that before...


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that's my opinion.

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The second concerto is probably my favorite. It's the most original and least boring one.

The third concerto is also VERY nice, but it suffers from repeats and too many things based on one single thing. It's structure is less impressive than the second concerto I think.

I like the first concerto too. Don't understand why it's not that famous.

The fouth concerto is horrible, I think...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:43 am 
If I had to choose, I would say the 2nd is my favourite. I love everything about it. One of my favourite moments is in the First Movement, when the main theme enters again and the piano is playing march-like counterpoint. Just brilliant. It gives me shivers.

The Third is also awesome. The Finale is so powerful. The first is awesome as well. Come on people, you have to realise that he was 15 when he wrote this. The orchestration is brilliant, and the soloist part is so well written.

I don't understand why everyone gives the fourth a bad rap. It's so different from everything else he wrote. The use of chromatisism, the rhythms, the orchestration... It's all awesome. Nothing compared to the Second and Third, but I don't believe it is crap.

But that's just my oppinion :D


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Is there a way that this could be made into a poll? I just want a quick glance at what everyone likes. Surprisingly I've never listened to any of the concerti and I was wondering which one to download (I have barely any room left on my iPod).


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:23 pm 
One of the best and most imaginative things Rachmaninoff wrote, IMO, would probably be the Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini. I'd place it above his concertos, personally, no matter how much it's been played. Though I'll say his finest piano concerto would probably be his fourth. It's terribly under-listened.


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chopinman0901 wrote:
Is there a way that this could be made into a poll? I just want a quick glance at what everyone likes. Surprisingly I've never listened to any of the concerti and I was wondering which one to download (I have barely any room left on my iPod).

No problems.

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Tie with No. 1 (the 2nd movement is wonderful) and No. 2. I've never cared for the 4th all that much, and the 3rd, I don't really care for it as much as others do. It's kind of overplayed, anyway.


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hmzz second is more overplayed than the 3 and so what you need to listen to the melodies not to listen to the thing that it is overplayed :idea:

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I think we all should listen to this:

http://gmlile.brinkster.net/rach/wattsossia.mp3

and the cadensa which he combined with the ossia that man is crazy

http://gmlile.brinkster.net/rach/wattscad.mp3

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:11 am 
Holy crap the first one is insane! I'd have a heart attack trying to play those octaves so fast! :shock: And the Cadenza is crazy as usual... Rachmaninoff is totally awesome...


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For the first time ever I just listened to the 2nd Concerto, and I was blown away!!! The whole thing was so brilliant, especially the 2nd movement. I think that the Adagio Sostenuto is probably the prettiest piece of music my ears have ever had the pleasure of hearing. I can't believe I haven't started listening to the concerti earlier.


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Cataclysm wrote:
I'll say his finest piano concerto would probably be his fourth. It's terribly under-listened.


I agree. The 4th has always been my favorite. I learned it for some big competitions some years back against my teacher's advice, he said the choice would work against me. I didn't win in those contests but none of the panel comments indicated that they thought the piece was poor, in fact a couple jurors complimented me on my choice of a lesser played concerto.


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i like the 3rd the best and the first mvt of the second only i never knew he had a fourth... :?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:25 am 
A couple of weeks ago, I saw a performance of his 2nd. To see it live was an experience and a half. It was the first piano concerto I'd ever had the opportunity to see live, so it has a special place in my heart. I went out and purchased a recording of it by Vladimir Ashkenazy recently, and have listened to it many times through already. It moves me every single time. I've loved it since I was a little girl and had a recording of the third movement on a 'piano favourites' CD I owned. =)


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3rd is my favourite if it is played by Horowitz. :o
I love the 2nd one as well. :oops:
It will take me years to learn them :(


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