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And I thought I was the only one working on it!:lol:

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You guys can have the Barcarolle. It's one of my favorite pieces by Chopin but I'll probably never be happy with the way I play those third trills. :( (ha, that probably sounds strange considering the etude I'm working on...but it's different!)

And yeah, you don't get to do just movements of a sonata in college, Monica - it's always the whole thing, alas. I'm going to cheat on the 2nd movement, with no qualms whatsoever...

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Terez wrote:
You guys can have the Barcarolle. It's one of my favorite pieces by Chopin but I'll probably never be happy with the way I play those third trills. .


I know what you mean. My trills will probably be terrible.

Here's another thing: I have only ever listened to Zimerman play the Barcarolle, but this morning I popped a copy of Rubinstein playing it into my ipod and took him with me on my morning run. My reaction was, 'yuck', and I never thought I would say that about Rubinstein. I always listen to him and Kissin play the mazurkas because although their interpretations are quite different, they are both good. So I was surprised by this Barcarolle rendition. Zimerman plays it much more gently - just how I think a barcarolle should be - like a boat softly swaying or gently bobbing up and down. Rubinstein's version reminded me of being in a raft going down the rapids on the Niagra river. He plays too gung-ho in my opinion.

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well...i'm finally back in singapore at the music academy here, i got in about 2 months ago just before school started and i was offered a scholarship too!

besides the 30 mins provided by the school, i ended up getting another teacher from the school who is now giving me private lessons.

so these are the pieces that i'm working on for school requirements, for my private teacher and for my other teacher in canada who will be back soon.

Bach- Invention no.13 in a minor and French Suite no.5 in G major
Czerny Etudes
Mozart- Sonata in a minor K.310

Beethoven- Sonata in D major op.10 no.3 (Complete)

Beethoven- Sonata in C major op.2 no.3 (Complete)
Liszt- Un Sospiro
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Mozart- Piano Concerto...just asked to pick one today, still undecided

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mmm, I like the Beethoven 10/3. :D

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hmm, I've decided to go with Op. 110 instead of the Tempest. I like it better.

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Funny about the Barcarolle... To be honest, I REALLY didn't want to learn it. Everybody always talks about how it's "the most beautiful piece Chopin EVER wrote" (never mind the Berceuse (sp?), or the 3rd sonata, or.........), but I just wasn't feeling it. Now I love it, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to play it the way I want to :P

Techneut, if you're going to be the first, make it quick... I'm playing a recital next Sunday and that's on the program, and it's going to be recorded ;)

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I don't know what it is about the Barcarolle...I didn't like it so much at first either, but after a while, it grew on me. Big time. It's definitely one of my faves of Chopin now.

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Techneut, if you're going to be the first, make it quick... I'm playing a recital next Sunday and that's on the program, and it's going to be recorded ;)

Haha no, this was just one of my many wild plans... I well knew someone would get there before me. Good luck with it. I will be listening with interest, as it really IS the most gorgeous piece Chopin ever penned.

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I tried to sell Nathan on it the other day. He wasn't impressed with it at first, but he said it was growing on him. So maybe there's hope for him. :lol:

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I dunno - I thought it was the prettiest piece when I first heard it. But I don't really feel that way anymore now that I'm seriously practicing it. Probably because I have to work so hard and it's taking a long time. It's still on my 'top 10 prettiest Chopin pieces', though (#1 is nocturne 27/2).

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Monica wrote:
I thought it was the prettiest piece when I first heard it. But I don't really feel that way anymore now that I'm seriously practicing it.

Which is precisely why I said "you guys can have the Barcarolle". ;) I've read through it probably about 3 or 4 times, which was enough to tell me that I would hate it if I had to actually practice it. :lol: A lot of Chopin is like that for me...

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Actually through playing it I've come to love it now... especially just the last couple days I'm REALLY getting into it. Maybe I can see how some people could say they think it's the most beautiful music Chopin wrote. I'm still not of that opinion, but it's definitely grown on me exponentially the more I've worked on it. But good grief it was hard to memorize. it's so complex :shock:

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Actually through playing it I've come to love it now... especially just the last couple days I'm REALLY getting into it. Maybe I can see how some people could say they think it's the most beautiful music Chopin wrote. I'm still not of that opinion, but it's definitely grown on me exponentially the more I've worked on it. But good grief it was hard to memorize. it's so complex :shock:


I'm having to work so darn hard on it, so I can't get into that mindset of loving it while playing it. Like Terez said, that's why I changed my mind about thinking it is the prettiest Chopin piece ever. But yesterday I once again listened to Zimmerman play it on my ipod and he is sooo good - really very special - and now the piece is creeping back onto the top of the list. (Although I was in the woods and sitting next to a river when I was listening, so everything was pretty.)

Looking forward to hearing your version, Kendrick.

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i've selected my mozart piano concerto at last!
i'm learning coronation :) actually i started working on it 2 weeks ago and i'm memorizing it now

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Ha, that was my thought as well Monica. But I decided it would be rude to say so. :lol:

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Not disbelief. ;)

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Ahh, you beat me, T.

Yes - disbelief is not it. Many of our members here were also playing at that same level as teenagers. Plus, there are thousands of Asian kids doing the same thing. Just look on the Internet. With the advent of YouTube, it’s not all that special anymore. But mostly we are more interested in what the person who is doing the posting is playing, not their son or daughter.

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You have every right to be proud of your daughter and her competitions. We just don’t usually discuss what our children are playing – we’re more into what ‘we’ are playing. Maybe your daughter should be the one chatting about her piano playing, instead. There is also another forum with more younger people where students chat about piano: http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/board,4.0.html

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Of course you are very proud that your teenage daughter is playing such music. Every parent would be, and obviously you believe every note she plays is great - as all parents would, especially those who do not play the piano themselves :wink:

But, you should not expect people to coo and wow over it instantly.... In this day and age, thousands of youngsters can toss off the hardest pieces without even blinking. Both the quality and quantity of young pianists (especially the Asian ones) are staggering. Technique means little these days.... they just have that. A musical personality is far more important - and many of them don't have that, or not yet. It worries me when pupils only play what their teacher "allows" them to play.

I hope your daughter will develop her own musical personality (well maybe she has that already, despite the teacher thing) and will join us one day with some recordings. We can't very well discuss her playing without recordings, and in her absence.

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Yay, another minor key lover! :D I love that Sinfonia, too...the fugue is awesome!

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Ah I promised recordings from the recital and I haven't been able to get a copy of them yet! I promise I will post them when I can get my hands on a CD :P

So for now I'm working on some stuff for a benefit I'm going to play to raise money for a guy I know who's having a kidney transplant in December. The program should look something like this:

Sinfonia from Partita no. 2 -- JS Bach
Sonata no. 26, "Les Adieux" -- L. v. Beethoven
I. Adagio-Allegro
Barcarolle, Op. 60 -- F. Chopin
Scherzo #3 -- F. Chopin

-Intermission-

Intermezzo Op. 118, no. 2 -- J. Brahms
Preludes, Book II -- C. Debussy
IV. (...Les Fées sont d'exquises danseuses)
VII. (...La terrasse des audiences du clair de lune)
Jeux d'eau -- M. Ravel
Sonata no. 6 -- S. Prokofiev
IV. Vivace

I might also do the last Debussy prelude from book II, or replace La Terrasse with it... haven't decided yet. I also *might* record it, but that's up in the air too :P

The next you'll be hearing from me will be my recordings I'll use to audition for a competition in Arizona this January. I'm recording the Beethoven, Prokofiev, and Ravel that I listed earlier, and Scarlatti k.39... I'm going to be busy this month! :shock: :D

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I have that book too, and know "Dawn" very well. It's nice. All the music in the book is fun, interesting, and beautiful. I really love the movie Pride and Prejudice and can watch it over and over and over again.

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there has been quite a big change since i went under my present teacher...she expects alot and assigns me a new piece/mvt of a sonata every week or 2, so i have been really busy

Beethoven:Sonata in C op.2 no.3(complete)
Beethoven: Sonata in D op.10 no.3(complete)

Mozart:Piano Concerto in D "Coronation" (complete)

New piece: Schumann Abegg variations- I just started this one again, it was too challeging for me a few months ago

for music school
- I have my exam tomorrow, so i'll finish off my bach&czerny after that will move on to
Mozart:Piano Sonata in a minor K.310

with/for my piano buddy
Stravinsky: 3 movements from Petrushka- there's no need to rush this one, the dateline will be about a year from now and when we meet, we'll put it together

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I LOVE the 3 movements from Petrouchka! I'm working on the (solo) Russian Dance right now :D

I don't really have any big competitions very soon... a couple concerto competitions, for which I'm working on the Prokofiev 3rd. Mainly I'm working on some pieces for a recital I'll give in April. The program should look something like this:

Beethoven Sonata no. 26 (the Les Adieux) - Complete

Ondine (from Gaspard)

1st mvt from the Prok concerto (w/ my teacher as the "orchestra" on a second piano)

-intermission-

Chopin:
Barcarolle
Etude op. 10 no. 7
Nocturne op. 48 no. 1 (C minor)
Scherzo #3

And then for an encore I'll probably play the Brahms 118/2 intermezzo (sooooo beautiful :) )

Apart from that stuff, I'm also working on the 4th Ballade of Chopin, and a Bach p&f (can't remember which one right off... it's from book I of the WTK), for when I start auditioning for colleges next year.

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Working on for my teacher:

Chopin Op.10 n.12
Schoenberg - six short piano pieces
Copland - Cat and the Mouse
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Working on for myself:

relearning Chopin Op.10 n.3
Beethoven Op.32 n.2
Chopin Nocturne in c minor n.21, Opp
Chopin Prelude in F# Maj, Db Maj, and g minor
Mozart Fantasy in C minor
Liszt Transcription of Beethoven's fifth.

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I've worked on all three of those Chopin preludes, and both of the etudes, and I think I could perform 10/3 but I was never able to get past tension issues with the 25/12. I also fiddled a bit with the Mozart fantasy last semester but there's just other stuff I'd rather play. But if I had to choose between Mozart and Schoenberg I'd embrace Mozart with tenderness and glee.

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I've worked on all three of those Chopin preludes, and both of the etudes, and I think I could perform 10/3 but I was never able to get past tension issues with the 25/12. I also fiddled a bit with the Mozart fantasy last semester but there's just other stuff I'd rather play. But if I had to choose between Mozart and Schoenberg I'd embrace Mozart with tenderness and glee.


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i'm almost a bit scared of it, and for no good reason, other than that I saw a 10-year old play it at a level that would put me to shame, easily.

The mozart fantasy, I want to play just because there's very little Mozart that i like, so I wanted to get something in my favorite key... so i picked it.

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Ha, I thought you said 25/12, but I see it was 10/12 now. :lol: I'm sort of scared of 10/12 myself, or certain bits of it anyway.

There is also very little Mozart that I like, but then, there is very little from the Classical era that I like. I usually avoid it by playing Baroque, Romantic, and 20th century.

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Terez wrote:
Ha, I thought you said 25/12, but I see it was 10/12 now. :lol: I'm sort of scared of 10/12 myself, or certain bits of it anyway.

Chicken :lol:
Watch this, then : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr9SXtvunwk

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Ha, I thought you said 25/12, but I see it was 10/12 now. :lol: I'm sort of scared of 10/12 myself, or certain bits of it anyway.

Chicken :lol:
Watch this, then : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr9SXtvunwk

That's sick. I don't do feets. :lol: That dude is crazy!

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Terez wrote:
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Terez wrote:
Ha, I thought you said 25/12, but I see it was 10/12 now. :lol: I'm sort of scared of 10/12 myself, or certain bits of it anyway.

Chicken :lol:
Watch this, then : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr9SXtvunwk

That's sick. I don't do feets. :lol: That dude is crazy!


Yes, the ultimate Kitsch.

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That performance is nuts.

Anyway, the Revolutionary doesn't scare me that much, as I started playing some of it a few years ago (when I first started, I was very overzealous... four months into playing, I played Mozart's K397 flawlessly in a recital, and my teacher praised me for it... gave me a big ego at first, so I attempted the Rev. a week later... That humbled me back down quite a bit, but the two sections I learned, I kept playing for years after.


The Tristesse Etude... I performed it about three years ago (yes, my teacher made me do it a year into playing... killed me... KILLED me :()

But as you can see... a year into music, one doesn't know music theory very well...I had only one semester of music theory, and my history classes hadn't reached the Romantic era yet... I didn't even know who Chopin was except that he was a Pole with a big nose that composed the Revolutionary etude. I didn't understand the middle section, and relied completely on muscle memory for playing it... It was probably the worst performance of the etude that has ever been done. :(

Back to Mozart...

I like his c and d minor fantasies, the 23rd piano concerto, the requiem, and the magic flute... everything else he composed (i've heard most of it... box set with everything, and i've yet to listen to maybe two cd's)... is... well... today's pop-music.... i just get really bored with it and being able to predict each chord progression really bothers me.

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Yes, it helps to at least understand the fully diminished 7th chord to play/memorize the middle section of the 10/3. :lol:

So you also use your understanding of harmony to memorize? I do that, and I have always done that, even before I studied theory, but some people I have talked to think that's strange. :?

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Yes, it helps to at least understand the fully diminished 7th chord to play/memorize the middle section of the 10/3. :lol:

So you also use your understanding of harmony to memorize? I do that, and I have always done that, even before I studied theory, but some people I have talked to think that's strange. :?


I did understand what the chords were... but I didn't know what their function was... I went back to it after my third year of theory and I understood where it Chopin was going. I just need to find the time to get to it. I have so much to work on for my teacher right now, that relearning this piece is a slow process.

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FYI, mixah, to make sure that your quote tags work, there is a spot in your profile to disable HTML, and there is also a box below each post if you don't wish to make a permanent setting change - this should fix the problem.

The last time I worked on the 10/3, it was after a failed attempt at the 25/12, and the process became mostly an exercise in relaxation - it was very difficult for me to learn to play the virtuoso passage on p.3 without tension in my hands (and because of the position on the keyboard, especially in my right hand), and learning that technique of relaxation made it possible for me to play the rest of the middle section with much more ease than I had managed before.

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memorizing by chord progression and harmony is the ONLY way I would be able to have memorized Chopin's Barcarolle...

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Terez wrote:
FYI, mixah, to make sure that your quote tags work, there is a spot in your profile to disable HTML, and there is also a box below each post if you don't wish to make a permanent setting change - this should fix the problem.

The last time I worked on the 10/3, it was after a failed attempt at the 25/12, and the process became mostly an exercise in relaxation - it was very difficult for me to learn to play the virtuoso passage on p.3 without tension in my hands (and because of the position on the keyboard, especially in my right hand), and learning that technique of relaxation made it possible for me to play the rest of the middle section with much more ease than I had managed before.


My BBcode is on in my profile, and I just checked it now again... yeah... dunno.

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My BBcode is on in my profile, and I just checked it now again... yeah... dunno.

Read properly, mixah. It's Always allow HTML that needs to be switched OFF.

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techneut wrote:
mixah wrote:
My BBcode is on in my profile, and I just checked it now again... yeah... dunno.

Read properly, mixah. It's Always allow HTML that needs to be switched OFF.


awesome. thanks.

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learning:
Mozart-Piano Concerto no.26 "Coronation" (complete)
Beethoven-Piano Sonata in D op.10 no.3
.almost done with these 2 so I on my own decided that i really need new pieces
so...
Schumann-Papllions op.2 (much more managable then Abegg for me)
Rachmaninoff-Prelude in D op.23 no.4 (decided that I wanted to play Rach again, I used to hate it so much!!! Thanks to my best friend, his playing motivated me to learn this and it has made it alot easier foe me)

still working on: 3 mvts from Petruskha(plenty of time for this one)

I had to put op.2 no.3 aside just because my L.H really can't trill right now and actually aside from this issue i'm practically done :x

after holidays end I will continue with Mozart Sonata K.310 and probably add a Liszt Etude in. I have also worked on Beethoven's Pathetique so it's time to finish it off!


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Location: Obamanation, unfortunately...
I'm not learning anything right now, save the Quartet from Rigoletto. I am, however, enjoying moments of repeatedly pounding on the keys with my fists and screaching like I was short-changed in the crotch by a size 14 boot.

...stress reliever indeed. :idea:

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I'm not learning anything right now, save the Quartet from Rigoletto. I am, however, enjoying moments of repeatedly pounding on the keys with my fists and screaching like I was short-changed in the crotch by a size 14 boot.

I feel relieved to know that you are not going to record that :lol:

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Scriabin's 10 famous wonderfully atonal and fourth based sonatas.
Vers La Flamme.
Alkan Grande Sonata Op. 33-Quatre Ages
Liszt Totentanz Solo
Claude Debussy: Preludes Deuxième Livre: 1. La Puerta del Vino 2. Ondine 3. Feux d'artifice
Scriabin Sonata opus 2 no 19
Chopin Revolutionary Etude
The Well Tempered Clavier Book 1
Rachmaninov Preludes opus 23 no 5
Liszt Grand Galop Chromatique
Beethoven Pathetique
Prokofiev Piano sonata no 4
Debussy Reflets dans l'eau

It will definitely be a little while before i try anything else than this current list. I'm going to be a happy man for a year or two :)


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I'm working on this:

http://file.walagata.com/w/lapeter/Beethoven2711.mp3
http://file.walagata.com/w/lapeter/Beethoven2713.mp3


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http://amelialw.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/feb-09/


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For a concert on March 27th


L'Histoire de Babar Poulenc. Including narration and choreography.

Le Bestiaire, Song Cycle by Poulenc. I just play piano :lol:

Alborada del Gracioso, Pavane pour Infante Defunte, Oiseaux Tristes and A la maniere de Borodine Ravel.


Clair de lune, General Lavine;Excentrique and one or two other pieces by Debussy, not sure just which ones yet. Maybe some Satie...

April 24th "An Evening of Rodgers and Hammerstein" I am musical director and pianist :P

May 3rd Piano Concerto No.1 in Eb Liszt, with Orchestra Northern Arizona :shock: 8)

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Chopin 25/7, Beethoven Op. 110 (still), and Bach Partita in E minor (still, this time the Allemande and Courante). Now all I have left on the Partita is the Gavotte (been putting that one off) but I have some serious work to do on all movements still, especially the Toccata.

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:D Hello, I am a newbie here.
Current program:
Ligeti Etude #10 Der Zauberlehrling
Beethoven Sonata in E op. 109
Liszt Au bord d'une source
Chopin Ballade in g mi op.23
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Rachmaninoff Etude-Tableaux in e-flat mi op.39#5
" Prelude in D op.23#4
" Prelude in b mi op.32#10
" Prelude in g#mi op. 32#12
Prokofiev 10 Scenes from Romeo and Juliet op.75

In-Progress program:
Liszt Benediction de Dieu dans la solitude
Brahms Paganini Variations op.35
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Ligeti Etude No. 6 Autome a Varsovie
Bartok 2 Roumanian Dances op. 8a
Szymanowski 2 Mazurkas (from op.50)
Berio Wasserklavier and Fuerklavier (from 6 Encores)
Scriabin Sonata No.5 in F# op.53


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