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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:06 am 
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Hi Everybody,
I have a question about accidentals and if they apply to the same note but in different staves and hands. Not sure if I’m explaining it right so the image shows you what I’m talking about. Does the c-flat in the bass staff apply to the c in the last chord of that measure even though it’s an octave higher? And does the RH play a c-flat too?

If you need to hear it to know for sure, I have a 30-second recording of me playing through two or three measures; one way with c-flats and the other way without. Both sound like they could work but I need some more opinions and I’m too impatient to wait for my next lesson. If you can spare a moment, just send me an email and I will send you the recording. I’m too embarrassed to put it up here for ‘everybody’ to hear.


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A non-signature accidental is valid only for the line it's written on, until the end of that measure (I often overlook that last part, which explains many of my read errors in Bach). The other notes are definitely C's, not C flats.

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I know you told me about the accidental not being applied to the other stave, but I wasn't sure about it carrying over to the same staff, same measure, different octave. Thank you very much - now I can record this piece. :)

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This is what parenthesized naturals are for. :lol:

What piece is that?


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Location: Obamanation, unfortunately...
My guess is a piece by Granados.

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Yeah, Granados writing blues :lol:

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PJF wrote:
This is what parenthesized naturals are for. :lol:

Yes, last time we had a discussion about accidentals, Alf called those "dummy" naturals, and so kindly pointed out that the composer/editor is not required to use them. :D

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My guess is a piece by Granados.

Close :lol:

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Yeah, Granados writing blues

How do you know it's blues? Never mind, I know... :wink:


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last time we had a discussion about accidentals, Alf called those "dummy" naturals,

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This is what parenthesized naturals are for.


Dummy naturals, parenthesized naturals, whatever you call them, I need them. Do you see how I had to write in the counting in the music? But in my defense, it's because the piece goes back and forth between 4/4 time and 7/8 time and I had a little trouble remembering in that spot.


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What piece is that?

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From the rhythm it's clear this is a bluesy piece. That would have been clear to me even if I did not know you were working on Copland's Four Piano Blues :wink:
Can't say I remember this pasage though... but it was a long time ago.

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