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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:08 am 
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I was reading a post on another forum the other day that was kind of pessimistic, but there was an interesting question posed. There was a organist on the Hauptwerk forum who more or less said some people are born with keyboard playing ability and the rest... aren't. Here's a clip from it:

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Over these past few years I have often felt like I may have reached the limit of what I can, in fact, achieve. Scientific research in recent years has shown that people's ability to sight-read music is largely limited by their working memory capacity, something which most scholars currently believe to be unchangeable. So once you reach a certain point, no more improvement is possible. I also have come to the conclusion that there may be certain mechanical limitations in the anatomy of my hands that prevent technical ability progressing beyond a certain point (this one is probably more dubious).


The thread in its entirety here:

http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12393

Any thoughts here? I wish this lad by the name of cdekter would cite the scientific research. But I have to wonder why it is some people can just look at sheet music and play it quite faithfully on the first reading. What I typically hear is that practice makes perfect, but to be perfectly honest, I don't see myself ever being a very good amateur. I just see myself as being average and though I don't like making excuses I think the "bio-architecture" of my brain or whatever it is so called is to blame.

Sorry if this is dismal talk. This is the kind of pitiful mood I get into because I sold my piano. :x

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 Post subject: Re: Sightreading ability
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:50 pm 
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Oh, you sold your piano? I hope you can get another one soon! Or else find a church or piano store or something that let's you practice on one of theirs.

Regarding the ability to sight-read...I think it's mostly that the more you do it, the better you become.

(Sorry for the short answer...really I think that's all there is to it!)

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 Post subject: Re: Sightreading ability
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:43 am 
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That's an idea, there are a few pianos at the church I go to now, i'll have to look into it. I wish I could see your performance on Weds. But I will be working then :evil: . I wish one of our forum members could tape it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sightreading ability
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 1:25 am 
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I'm pretty sure sight-reading ability is (Liszt and John Ogdon notwithstanding) not particularly correlated to being a great pianist. Some concert pianists are lousy sight-readers! I'm a pretty good sightreader, though obviously not to the above level. I find it's largely a matter of familiarity with standard patterns and the ability to very rapidly crossreference them against what's in a score.


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 Post subject: Re: Sightreading ability
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 3:03 pm 
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I agree with Andrew. Much of my living when I was young was from sight-reading, and this came simply from constant use - I started professional accompanying when I was 15 and was at it without much interruption for about 18 years.

But my progress as a pianist was totally separate and came one exercise, scale and arpeggio at a time. Which is probably why my technique was never very stellar! Sight-reading allows one instant gratification (and a paycheck!) while technique requires constant work and sacrifice. I did not have that type of focus, and admire those who do.

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 Post subject: Re: Sightreading ability
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:23 pm 
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Thanks for your input Monica, Andrew and Stu.

I definitely agree it's about being able to cross-reference the score with standard patterns. And that's why those darn atonal pieces are so difficult--there's nothing to latch onto. Or I should say, very little.

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