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browser...hmmm...does Internet Explorer answer that question? My sons are still asleep so I can't ask them what a browser is. If that's not right, than does MSN work? That's my home page when I turn on the computer.

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Okay, it is Internet Explorer. I have little experiences with this one (especially with the latest version), so I fear I can't help you. Have a look in its "options" or "preferences" menu, however it's called there. Maybe there is something like a "history" with all your visited sites, where you can delete all the entries. I don't know anything precise, sorry.

But I believe doing things like these is easier with other browsers, like Firefox.

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The statistics are still not updating. It's stuck on August 5.

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Yes, it's stuck alright. That has nothing to do with the browser, there is probably a problem with the script that auto-generates this stuff each night. That script cost me a lot of sweat... it can fall over because of something silly like an unexpected ID3 tag in a Mp3. I'll have to dig into this properly, and may well have no time to do so until the weekend.

@ pianolady : Basically, a browser is the program you use to access pages on the internet. Most people use Internet Explorer, but a growing number of people use non-Microsoft browsers like Mozilla Firefox, Safari, or Opera. Each has their own features, merits and problems. All these subtly different browsers are what make web development such a royal pain in the bottom....

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pianolady wrote:
Is it my computer? The day to day statistics are not changing on mine.
Also, I have a question: On my computer, files I have clicked on become highlighted in red on the stats page and don't seem to ever go back to blue. Is there a way to manually take off the red and make those files blue again?

Go to the page, right-click and choose refresh. That should do it.

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Go to the page, right-click and choose refresh. That should do it.

It doesn't do it for me, not even the Ctrl-Refresh ("hard" refresh). I must admit not knowing how exactly this works, i.e. where IE stores the info that this page has been visited. Deleting all cookies does not get rid of it either, nor does deleting all temporary files.

Of course it is easy to avoid them getting red at all, if you do not like that. You can customize the color of visited and unvisited pages in the preferences, and thus make them the same. But it is handy to see what pages you have already visited so I would not recommend that.

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I must admit not knowing how exactly this works, i.e. where IE stores the info that this page has been visited. Deleting all cookies does not get rid of it either, nor does deleting all temporary files.

Should have Googled before posting. The answer was simple of course - a page is known as visited if it's in the browser's History. You can clear all or part of the history to make the visited links appear as unvisited again. Hope that makes sense Monica....

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Yippeeee. It worked! No more red. I've been wondering how to do that for years. (I always knew how to clear out cookies, but it never occurred to me to do this when I'm on the page that I want to clear) But in case anybody is reading this, watch what you 'delete' or 'clear'. On top of clearing out the history files, cookies, and temporary internet files, I cleared out all my passwords too. Hope I wrote them all down somewhere... :wink:

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I cleared out all my passwords too. Hope I wrote them all down somewhere... :wink:

To be really safe, you should always write all your passwords on a slip of paper and tape that underneath your keyboard. Nobody will ever think of looking there :P

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To get back on topic, I found why stats is broken. It is because the server access log has grown too big to handle - it is now over 2GB, containing over 10 million lines :shock: . I guess we'll have to live with the current stats until we split that huge access log. I've previously discussed this with Robert, and wrote some code for it, but we never implemented it. I guess we'll have to now...

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Have you seen the statistics page today? There's something funny going on with the Brahms piece. 81,000 hits? I know it's not Arensky doing that, but is this one of those 'loop' things you talk about? I also noticed that I don't get a ticket to listen to recordings anymore.

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Have you seen the statistics page today? There's something funny going on with the Brahms piece. 81,000 hits? I know it's not Arensky doing that, but is this one of those 'loop' things you talk about?

I'm sure it's Chase is doing that... Bet you he's sitting there, clicking away, trying to get to the top of the list. But I won't have it ! Two can play that game :twisted: I'll start right now, to hell with RSI. Watch this space :lol:

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You better click very, very fast. I think this is the first time your name has not been at the top.

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I still am, in the cumulative stats. But Chase is running up, he's clicked on his Brahms a whopping 238569 times. Not sure if I can beat that :lol:

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WTF! 184,130 downloads! My loop scripts should blocks this kind of activity. Did someone find a way around it?! Really strange as there is no specific IP producing it. See the list below:
Times - IP address
929 - 222.197.169.219
630 - 218.26.7.137
522 - 61.235.77.56
478 - 220.197.153.188
457 - 219.137.95.207
410 - 222.22.12.6
405 - 220.248.229.17
388 - 219.136.151.30
364 - 221.232.137.90
363 - 211.136.15.9
356 - 124.207.98.162
353 - 210.29.17.241
352 - 222.18.53.247
349 - 117.121.24.228
347 - 60.212.73.81
347 - 218.84.93.119
325 - 59.60.202.129
321 - 220.197.142.206
316 - 219.247.55.213
307 - 218.6.246.101
306 - 60.19.215.172
301 - 59.155.131.125
290 - 222.20.243.201

Perhaps someone linked the recording from another site but I have protection for that. However, I know the protection was not activated for half of September. Still blame Chris for that :o :D. More likely, I did that by mistake myself.

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Statistics are really screwed up. Our new guy, Nathan, is now at the top. :lol:

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Statistics are really screwed up. Our new guy, Nathan, is now at the top. :lol:

That is because he's gettnig the credit for the 891946 :shock: downloads of Chase Coleman's Brahms intermezzo. Nobody beats that. Seems like stats cannot handle name clashes. Just like JS Bach is now being listed as C.P.E.

Nathan, just to save me work, could you please change your surname ? :lol:

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How about also posting the total download statistics every 6 month or so?

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whoohooo ... I rule ... and I haven't even uploaded a Brahms yet ... lol

Now, if only I could use my powers for good! :twisted:

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I have at last fixed the stats script and all of the inconsistent filenames and ID tags. The stats and new pages seem to be ok now. Chase Coleman is firmly in the lead - his Brahms Intermezzo has cause more downloads than all other recordings together :shock: I am not sure what to do about that. Somebody out there must really like that recording :wink:

To all who upload files directly to the server (so far, besides me, that is only Robert) : Please take (yet more) care about correct filenaming and ID3 tagging. Errors in there repeatedly cost me time as I must change the stats program to deal with them.

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Can you please make a post about how to make correct ID tags?

Also, what is the point about the last row of statistics - the cumulative, which is the same as the current month?

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pianolady wrote:
Can you please make a post about how to make correct ID tags?

Yeh good point. There was one but I think it was on the old forum. I'll make a new one because people can really save us time by doing this properly.

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Also, what is the point about the last row of statistics - the cumulative, which is the same as the current month?

There is no point right now. I think Robert split the access log on october 1, so the cumulative stats go back to that date only. As from next month, there will be a difference though.

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Can you please make a post about how to make correct ID tags?

Yeh good point. There was one but I think it was on the old forum. I'll make a new one because people can really save us time by doing this properly.


But it is stated in the thread "posting multiple attachments" in the audition forum already - explaining the rule for the name, and Chris provided 2 screenshot-examples for correct file namings?

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No, ID tagging is not really explained in that post. But from the screen shots, I think you are talking about the filename? ex. Chopin-5-2-Breemer.mp3 ?
Putting in the dashes and the performers last name is something I have never done, so if this is correct ID tags, then I'll do it. Do we need to also put in that mp3 at the end?

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Anyway I'll check what is documented and what needs to be added. Wrong tags and especially wrong filenames are a pain in the bottom that I could well do without.

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I have at last fixed the stats script and all of the inconsistent filenames and ID tags. The stats and new pages seem to be ok now. Chase Coleman is firmly in the lead - his Brahms Intermezzo has cause more downloads than all other recordings together :shock: I am not sure what to do about that. Somebody out there must really like that recording :wink:


Looking good. I have truncated the logs so that only the present month is available and will rotate the logs every month. The reason I did so was that the creation of the statistics tended to crash the server as the log file was so large. Also, it is a pain for the backup procedure as it needs to copy the entire file every night.

I checked Chase's stats and there are more than 1000 different IP addresses downloading his music so the link must have been placed on a very famous website or into a game or something. Perhaps loading automatically when you enter a special page etc. So far, I have not been able to understand from where. Do you know?

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To all who upload files directly to the server (so far, besides me, that is only Robert) : Please take (yet more) care about correct filenaming and ID3 tagging. Errors in there repeatedly cost me time as I must change the stats program to deal with them.

Mostly my fault. I know how this is a pain and special characters in the ID3-tagging will also make it more difficult. For instance, Lebenstedt's Schumann recordings had the ü character which is not support by the ID3-tagging program. Basically, only [A-Z][a-z][0-9][,.-_()'] are allowed.

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robert wrote:
Looking good. I have truncated the logs so that only the present month is available and will rotate the logs every month. The reason I did so was that the creation of the statistics tended to crash the server as the log file was so large. Also, it is a pain for the backup procedure as it needs to copy the entire file every night.

If you do this every month, the cumulative stats in their current form serve no purpose any more.
But I have not got a better solution either. It would be better to generate cumulative stats from cycled logs than from one large access log. Darn, I'll have to rewrite that program again now :x

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I checked Chase's stats and there are more than 1000 different IP addresses downloading his music so the link must have been placed on a very famous website or into a game or something. Perhaps loading automatically when you enter a special page etc. So far, I have not been able to understand from where. Do you know?

Maybe it is used as background sound in a page somewhere. Perhaps we can find this with Google, it is worth a try. If that is the case they should copy the file to their own server instead of hotlinking to us. BTW I thought you had disable linking directly to MP3's ?

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Mostly my fault. I know how this is a pain and special characters in the ID3-tagging will also make it more difficult. For instance, Lebenstedt's Schumann recordings had the ü character which is not support by the ID3-tagging program. Basically, only [A-Z][a-z][0-9][,.-_()'] are allowed.

That is most definitely not true. May if you do the tagging on the Linux machine, but Windows ID3 programs (I use iTunes) have no trouble with it. I have lots of diacriticals in my ID3 tags (think of all these Bach organ titles) and they do not present any problem in either the stats or new programs. In filenames though, they should be avoided like the plague. I am still intrigued how you managed to get Chinese encoding set for some of the tags :lol:

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I checked Chase's stats and there are more than 1000 different IP addresses downloading his music so the link must have been placed on a very famous website or into a game or something.



I like games and am intrigued that my playing is possibly being used for that purpose. 8)

If a website is famous, then so am I, anonymously. :?


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Perhaps loading automatically when you enter a special page etc. So far, I have not been able to understand from where. Do you know?


If you find out, let me know! Who or whatever is downloading that piece might like to communicate with me directly; then again they could do that via private message. Still, I am VERY curious about this.


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Have you seen the stats today? I am right underneath you, Chris. (but can you move to the right a bit? - you are a little heavy :lol: )

What is it with that Brahms piece? Now someone is 'looping' Chase's version and mine. Weird!

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Have you seen the stats today? I am right underneath you, Chris. (but can you move to the right a bit? - you are a little heavy :lol: )

What is it with that Brahms piece? Now someone is 'looping' Chase's version and mine. Weird!

No comment on the first question - except that my skinny 77 kgs can't be said to be heavy.

I always expected to be overtaken by one of the other recording tigers. Almost there now. Maybe I should go and record that Intermezzo too - people seem to like it. And do the Mondschein and Arabesque for good measure as those are evidently what the world needs most :lol:

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chicken! and what is a skinny 77 kgs? I hope that is not a typo for 77 legs.

Can't you fix that stats thing? It is such an inaccurate picture. But take your time doing it, so I can enjoy my #2 status a little longer. I'll never be there again.

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chicken! and what is a skinny 77 kgs? I hope that is not a typo for 77 legs.

Oh yeh, I forgot the USA are not metric yet. The conversion to pounds is left as an excercise for the reader :P

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Can't you fix that stats thing? It is such an inaccurate picture. But take your time doing it, so I can enjoy my #2 status a little longer. I'll never be there again.

The stats thing is doing the right thing. It counts downloads, and has no way to tell to indicate whether they're done by man or machine.

Or perhaps there is... as each line in the access log mentions the user agent. Hm, need to think about that some more. And get off that piano to do some more proramming. Gr.

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If anyone think it is interesting in a lot of different statistics, such as which country is accessing this site the most, check this link:
http://pianosociety.com/geolizer/usage_ ... l#TOPCTRYS

And the entire stats (January) for all kind of different things here:
http://pianosociety.com/geolizer/usage_200801.html

Historical a year back:
http://pianosociety.com/geolizer

Raymond, your Rambles video is on the top when it comes to using most bandwidth! Videos are not counted in the normal download statistics but this proves the interest.

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That's neat, Robert.
What is the difference between hits per day versus visits per day?

(go USA!)

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That's neat, Robert.
What is the difference between hits per day versus visits per day?

(go USA!)

Hits are the number of each downloaded content from the site. Just visiting the first page will be one for the content in the middle, one for the logo, one for each picture etc. Perhaps just visiting the first page will count as 8-9 hits while visits are the number of unique IP addresses and user agent (browser you use). Number of visit is actually the most interesting figure.

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Hello, I don't know if it's an issue you've encountered before, but my name seems to appear twice (with different counts) in the download statistics. :shock:


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Hello, I don't know if it's an issue you've encountered before, but my name seems to appear twice (with different counts) in the download statistics. :shock:

Indeed ! That is weird, can't see why that would happen. Back to debugging that damn program again :x

Looking at these stats - our power downloader has now taken a great fancy to some of my Tchaikovsky items and downloaded them almost 100000 times each :shock: Either that or my stats program has gone totally bonkers. I'll have to check up on that tonight.

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I found out why this double entry in the stats happened. I thought I'd fixed it but now I seem to have another problem. The statistics will not be updated until I fix this too. but no more time now, not tomorrow.

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Download statistics is still down - it crashes and I haven't found yet why. Difficult to investigate without a debugger so we'll have to wait until the new server is installed. Should not take long, sez Robert.

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just thought I'd point out this was still down, in case it had slipped anyone's mind. :)

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I said this before, but here goes again in case people wonder about the statistics.

The stats program crashes during execution and therefore the stats are never completed. I have tried to pinpoint the problem but without having a debugger on the server it takes too much time (we're talking processing millions of lines here). I am waiting for Robert to install the new server on which he promised to install a debugger. Then I'll fix it.

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Any updates on the new server?

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avguste wrote:
Any updates on the new server?

None that I know of. This is Robert's call.

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techneut wrote:
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Any updates on the new server?

None that I know of. This is Robert's call.

We are into discussions with service providers to get a good price/performance ratio. Sorry for taking so long. The new server is already delivered to me and configured. But it is not for certain we will use the same hosting center so I do not wish to make the change until that is set.

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any updates?
It would be great to have the stats back up and running

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avguste wrote:
It would be great to have the stats back up and running

Yep. Can't wait to get my hands on that debugger and find out why the heck it crashes !

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The stats are back on, but only since june 12 - I don't know why there is a break there... darn, yet more debugging to do. The problem was caused by horrendously long lines in the access log. I never had thought the webserver could log so much crap.
Nathan's made second in line on account of his Grieg 38.3 being so popular.

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Yay - Thanks for that!! It’s neat to see how many times certain pieces are downloaded. It’s like a window that shows us what the world is currently interested in. I also like the running numbers between Bach and Chopin who are always in the one and two spot (great when Chopin moves to #1 :) ).

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The reason for the gap is that the logs are growing so fast that I need to rotate and compress them about every month. In 2 months, the grow to 4 GB and most programs (including C-programs) can not open files that big. What we can do is to decompress these files and run them file by file but that is 4-6 hours work.

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robert wrote:
The reason for the gap is that the logs are growing so fast that I need to rotate and compress them about every month. In 2 months, the grow to 4 GB and most programs (including C-programs) can not open files that big. What we can do is to decompress these files and run them file by file but that is 4-6 hours work.

There must be a smarter way to do it. Like maybe, a stats deamon that sucks the new lines off the log as they come, and stores that info for historic purposes. Let me think about this some more before we take any decisions. On the new server, with the debugger, it will be a bit easier to change.

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